Is an Ergonomic Mouse Worth It? Logitech ERGO M575 Review

0:00 Intro
0:44 Preview
0:58 A bit different, and my qualifications
1:40 What's in the box?
3:00 So why even consider a trackball?
4:49 Build quality and design
5:33 Strong rubber feet
5:50 Wheels and buttons
6:29 Grooved surface
6:50 Connectivity options
7:01 Tracking performance - Ehhhhhhhhh
8:21 Compatibility and software - Logitech Options
8:42 Comfort
9:40 When it went downhill
9:56 Time to get used to the trackball
10:08 Battery life
10:22 My Concerns and Experience
11:43 Not everyone is the same
12:00 Go to a professional
12:10 Joint protection ideas
12:34 The Verdict
13:09 Vertical Mouse option
14:18 The sound demo - all the buttons
14:40 Outro

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[DSL-Edge]

This is an excellent review. ... I’ll just say, however, I’ve been in the ergonomic field for 40 years. I have worked extensively with, for example, classical string musicians with severe pain & dysfunction of the arms and hands. I saved a LOT of professional musical careers that would have ended due to so much pain in their arms & hands. ... For ME, these trackballs from Logitech are TOTALLY stress and tension reducing. Yet I can see where they would need some getting used to for SOME people. But the fact is the “reversible thumb” is designed to do a wide range of motions, whereas the wrists and other fingers are not. So I highly recommend giving these devices a try. But give it some time to adapt. ... A world class violinist who switches to a viola (almost identical except for a small size difference) can suffer quite a a lot of stress and pain for a period of time, even though there is very little difference in the instruments except being in little larger. But because their neuromuscular system is so used to one VERY precise pattern of movement, switching to an instrument that only requires a slight change in reach when playing is enough to trigger an sense of unfamiliarity, which can trigger a pain pattern. (The nervous system loves familiarity, and hates unfamiliarity.) For some people, even slight deviations of movement can produce a pain pattern even though NO real damage is actually occurring. So, don’t give up too soon if you try this device.

[michaellipkowitz]

The M570 is my daily driver, so it's great to see this new one covered. I love the feel of a trackball but after a few years I can safely say the thumb-based positioning leaves something to be desired. I've been having more pain in my thumb and lower hand, so to hear an OT address this is really helpful.

I think I'll check out the vertical mouse or a finger-based trackball. I also wish they had included a hardware DPI switch like a lot of trackballs now on the market. Thanks for making an honest review.

[Ghost_]

If this is your first time experiencing a trackball, then it really is understandable if you are struggling with it esp with precision pointing. Trackball does takes time getting used to esp if you want to completely master it. For others, it's pure BS, for us who managed to love trackball and learned how to use minimal muscle effort, we LOVE it :)

[xinyubao]

I have both MX ERGO and ERGO M575. One is in my office and another is for home. As a 3D modeler, I really would like to recommend tracking ball mouses for people who have a workflow that heavily relies on mouse. It feels weird to use at the beginning, but after a couple of hours you will get used to it. Before I use a tracking ball mouse, my arm and the joint between my arm and palm could easily feel pain, nonetheless this problem was all solved by the tracking ball mouse like a magic. Now I can sit and work for hours without feeling the pain.

[juliarice]

I have been using this mouse for over 15 years I am a 62 yr old lady who has been in two car accidents with neck issues. I still work 40 to 70 hours a week in Autocad and Excell. Could not work those hours without a trackball mouse. I do not always leave mouse on table top, I tie the mouse to my hand with rubber band or hair tie mouse will work in the air, rested on your leg, held behind your head! Anywhere you can click it! No need to keep it flat on table too to make it work!

[RabbitInRed]

Thanks for a really informative review. I am a Logitech Trackball fan (any model) for a few decades. I think I have the first one I ever bought that still works. The trick is to remember that the keys and other buttons on what we use don't need a heavy touch. I already had carpel tunnel before I ever used it. It has helped me not get worse. I am administrative assistant/typist - it saved my hands. Again, thanks for the lesson on occupational therapy.

[beactivebehappy]

good to see that yt is now promoting better quality underrated content... Happy to see this change coming...

[wadesmith]

Had my first computer job 62 years ago. When PCs first showed up, I had my first mouse. It was obviously the "standard" configuration. As I grew older, I began to experience hand tremors. I was diagnosed with essential tremors. At that point, it became very difficult to control my mouse. The trackball mouse was a life saver. I have gone through a number of them and have just ordered the latest Logitech version.

[lesliemilthorpe]

This is the best review i have found on the M575. I liked that she explained the benefits and the realistic expecation that it can take some time to get used to it which was my experience. Also she went into the software which none of the other reviews did. I also go the logi K860 keyboard which also takes some time to get used to. I like them both. If you have to do precise editing, then have an alternate mouse to do that with

[morrisbennis]

Holy sh*t I didn't know you can talk that long about a mouse

[subramoniams]

I had a severe pain in my arm and shoulder with a Apple mouse in just a couple of days and it went to the storage. The pain vanished after I switched to Logitech M570. Using it since nearly 7 years. No fatigue as you said. No issues with smaller movements of cursor especially doing some CAD work and things after using it for a few days.

[yobanyhernandez]

"harder time on old school Runescape" exactly what I needed to know! thank you!! you gained a new sub and hope your enjoying leagues trail blazers reloaded!

[toddmartin]

Awesome! Just bought this mouse today and found this review by someone with a lot of qualifications to do a great review!

[willb]

Wow your A roll quality has really improved recently, been loving the consistent content.

[mosharv]

Really enjoyed this video, it was very refreshing to get a keeb enthusiast's take on this ergo mouse! Cool to hear about your education background and found the review much more enjoyable without the goofy voices, would love to see more content like this

[stevenorlikowski]

I've been using the original M570 for over 5 years now. I have a technique for using it that reduces thumb fatigue. I hover my wrist above the desktop, and I move my hand around a little bit as I control the ball with my thumb. I tried the MX Ergo, but I returned it because its grippy surface made it harder to slide my hand around.

[ninetenscoffee]

from my experience, trackpad is actually the most ergonomics because our hands does not forced to stay horizontally. Since our middle finger is longer, it becomes the pointer and when you rest the palm it naturally want to rest on right, then since your ring finger is shorter, when you want to apply double touch for right click, your hand automatically making a 45 degree angle. So the take way here is to use the right corner of your middle and ring finger.

[jesusgonzales]

I started using thumb trackballs back in high school (I'm now in my late 40s). I use them for gaming and for work. For me, they're all about convenience and space-saving. Ergonomics is, as you say, all about the individual.

[LightPink]

Some people like using linear mouse acceleration with their trackballs to help with finer movements

[Huntracony]

Thanks for the review! My thumb gets sore quite quickly, I was wondering if this might be okay anyway, but your review has convinced me it would not, so I'll be looking for a different type of trackball.