Should You Lead Worship Songs From/Written By Bethel Music?

We are finally talking about it. Should, or shouldn't we lead worship from Bethel Music. Hope you enjoy

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[debbiespencer]

Yes!! A reformation in worship is needed so badly! I agree whole heartedly.

[blessed]

I no longer listen to contemporary Christian music. Too many of those songs do not glorify God, but glorifies man. Hymns are refreshing!!

[christinaadams]

Bill Johnson’s so good at saying nothing, or horrible things, and making them sound so profound. It’s so easy to take it at face value and not think too hard on what he said, because he’s the guy on the stage. I watched so many of his sermons and left feeling like it was so deep, but I really hadn’t paid attention to what he was really saying. I’ve become so much more cautious about everything I listen to and take in. I think it’s valuable to remember that our lives are a sacrifice to Christ, and we don’t live for ourselves. Just because a song is pleasing to our senses, doesn’t mean it’s pleasing to God, or it belongs in our minds to dwell on. The reason it’s hard to cut out some of this music is because it’s ultimately about us and what pleases our senses. Our walk with God and willingness to please Him has to be worth more than our desires to please ourselves. It is a form of sensuality if we really dig into it.

[oneandonlyarajivp]

I have been sensing this for a while now that we not only need a worship reformation but also a prostetant reformation. Protestanism today has come to such a crazy place where worship is all about me and disgustingly glorified and the sermons have become so much more about "how are you feeling today and here's a bible story that will help you get up" rather than expounding on the cross and the revelation of Jesus. Today, services are more about the people and their feelings and climbing mountains and the healings than salvation, sanctification, the coming of Jesus and his reign. It is sad to see this. So yes, a reformation is more than overdue!

[michelleb]

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate what you brought to the table in this video. 2.5 yrs ago the worship leader in the church I attended had a true conviction that the church needed to remove Hillsong, Bethel, and Elevation music from the roster. It became a bone of contention and the church leadership made it clear that they were not willing to remove the music because they did not want to offend anyone. Offending the God who convicted the worship leader did not seem to be a worry.

You are correct when you say that the church needs to have a reformation regarding worship.

Your wife’s analogy of the toilet water is spot on and it can be applied to so many of the worldly things that are creeping into the church.

[learntodiscernministry]

Great video, brother! I agree with your assessment. I have led plenty of Bethel songs in the past, but have really changed my mind on that and no longer find it wise to do so. Keep up the great work, man!

[practic_ally_healthy]

I too came out of the Charismatic world a few years ago. I knew there was a controversy regarding Bethel, but I never looked into it. I didn’t want to be divisive and just stuck to worshiping with their music.
April of ‘21 God stirred my heart to look into the Bethel Controversy and I never looked back. God completely changed me as I listened to endless hours of former students and Chris Roseborough and people who made truth SO CLEAR to me. I was ready for the truth and whatever sacrifices that might require because I just wanted clarity. I was not offended in the least by him. And I could tell the genuine love and knowledge from people like Justin Peters.
After repenting from Bethel, Hillsong, Elevation worship, I became very uncomfortable in my church that started playing their songs. We were uncomfortable and perplexed for a year having to not participate in something we had repented of! We finally left that church and go to Calvinist ones that only sing hymns.
We are SO BLESSED by that worship environment and have incorporated personal hymnal singing in our home with our kiddos. We are learning how to play the piano and sing WeeSing Bible Songs- such a treasure! Now I have my baby humming along the very singable music before he can even talk! And my littles worship spontaneously too. It’s in their heart. It doesn’t rely on a sound system.
Now we’re perplexed by a previous church of ours, whose worship leaders play Bethel and even travel to participate in their ministry. It’s sticky. But I better develop a notebook of Biblical arguments or points of belief and accompanying Scriptures to help aid in conversing and confronting these issues. ❤

[debbiekerr]

I think you are spot on! We have to be consistent with the Word. No compromise. Thank you!

[carlafoss]

I had to give it up a couple of years ago and, yes, it’s very difficult. I appreciate you sharing your Spotify playlist!

[faithelizabeth]

Thank you so much for making videos like this and posting your Spotify playlist! My husband and I left our charismatic church a year ago after being involved our whole lives. I lead worship at church, prophetic worship sessions the whole deal! It’s been nice to listen to someone who’s experienced similar things talk about all this! I’ve been really struggling with the musical part of me finding biblically solid worship to listen too! I am excited to check our your Spotify playlist.

[KylaJo]

You are spot on. I used to think it was strange that my pastor checked on the music line up before church, but I get it, now. I'm so glad he makes sure it is sound theology! We sing hymns that are so theologically rich, and also contemporary, but never Hillsong, Elevation, Bethel Music, etc. Thank you for putting it out there, more churches need this information!

[DrTomatoClock]

Thank you for your work on this! The church needs to take a theological stand.

I often feel quite helpless at my church when I’m the only one who refuses to play songs like Reckless Love. I feel like such a downer criticising the theology of our worship songs.

You’ve inspired me to persevere in love for God and His church!

[Gregoire]

Thank you very for sharing your life and experience with us ❤. Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱 ❤️

[debbiespencer]

I enjoyed this conversation. Its a hard coversation, but we need to talk about it. Thanks😊

[sina]

Glad you put this video out. Good job.
Specially thankful you added the edits. I totally agree. Shane and Shane have done lots of Bethel & Co covers in the past, they’ve done the collaborations on their Worship Initiative, and this concert now is only the newest and most obvious thing.

[kkitao]

Great video. You make a lot of really good points.

I’m really glad you’re back (though I know this isn’t a new video.)

I’m interested to hear that you’re a Mennonite. My father’s family was Mennonite, and in fact, his name was Menno.

[sherrylhenning]

There is a have a group of unaffiliated people write some theologically sound songs. Actually, there are a few alternatives. We're just addicted to the ease of using Bethel Music. It's a piece of cake to update the old Maranatha Music songs (aka The Praise Album series). I happen to know that Martin Luther's old rousers make GREAT metal songs. Bet several songs in those old hymnals can be updated to a current style. We used to sing Old Rugged Cross to acoustic only. Try it. Sing it slow, gentle, worshipful. Now segue into a quiet, gentle, rendition of the original Amazing Grace. There's also Kieth Green and Rich Mullins, who also pre-date Bethel. If anybody wants to disassociate themselves from Bethel Music completely, it's not as hard as you think. Truly epic praise and worship music has been around a lot longer than Bethel has. oop! Almost forgot....2nd Chapter of Acts! Great band! Definitely dated sound, but the songs wouldn't take much tweaking to make them current.

[danielcguy]

Really love this. Love the editing direction and you are so easy to listen to. For me personally, I am just very big on the shepherd of the flock and how his 'leading' depicts the theology of his subsidiaries. i.e. Because of Bill Johnson / Kris Vallaton / Brain & Jen Johnson / Steffany Gretzinger and their VERY unbiblical teachings, I completely shy away from anything Bethel as far as applying it to my 'walk'. Which is a shame because, yes, many years ago.. I enjoyed songs like 'Starlight'. I just can't stomach Bill Johnson and how he leads the flock so far 'off the map'. Love you Jesse, you da man and such a blessing!

[davidharmsworth]

In the UK there is the CCLI licence which is a way for artists to get paid for live use of their copyrighted songs etc. Even if a song is scriptually 100% correct, the earnings goes direct to the ministry that supports that song. So if you do not like Bethels or Hillsongs teachings say but still play those songs then you are indirectly supporting that ministry.

[phyllisbonnett]

Thank you! This helped me so much!! I deleted all their music off my Spotify Playlist. Thank you for the list you provided for us! Keep up the good work! You're very brave to do this!!