The Zero Coronary Calcium Con (When CAC = BS)

Low carb / carnivore influencers have repeatedly touted their zero CAC score to justify their super high LDL cholesterol but what does the science say?
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Zero CAC Not Clean Bill of Health:

Western Denmark Study:

Brazilian Study: "...(47%) had significant coronary obstructions (over 50%)..."

Cardiovascular Events with Zero CAC:

Obstructive CAD with Zero CAC, 1000+ people:

Case Study of 31-Year-Old with Zero CAC, Two Blocked Arteries:

Ratio Soft to Hard Plaque Study:

Key to Lowering CAC:

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#CAC #carnivore #vegan

[willl]

Hes right. I had a 0 CAC score but a soft plaque with a 28% stenosis. I let myself go and got fat. Back on the plants and excercise now. 100% plant based im not cheating at all

[nomzhlf]

Mike, I commend you for attracting so many low carb dieters to your channel. As a vegan, it’s always encouraging to see the message have such outreach, even if the response is sometimes negative and/or argumentative.

[minttea]

I am not a vegan but I do love your show because you really do your research

[eddiec]

So, now a CAC score isn’t good enough either! Vegan and non vegans alike just keep trying to one up each other. Does anyone care simply about human health regardless of begin vegan or

[zachcain]

Omg when the guy’s calcium score went up on carnivore but the “carnivore doctor” said it’s a win? These people are on another level

[VeganLinked]

I'm so glad you did this video. I've tried to address this a few times in comments and even interviews I've had with cardiologist but it never seems to pan out right. You nailed this. It's my understanding the calcified plaque is a last stage of lesion and plaque development promoted by macrophages. Which essentially you said they're not old enough to have a calcium score yet. Which is one of the main problems with people getting excited about transient results implementing deadly death based elimination fad diets. People don't understand the chronic diseases they're setting themselves up for that take time to develop like cancers, heart diseases, neurodegenerative diseases, etc.

[st.peterunner]

I literally laughed out loud at the “Horatio” thing

[thomashugus]

I had a “soft plaque “ that ruptured in a major coronary artery! I was on the treadmill doing my normal cardiovascular workout. So much for the no calcium detected!

[jonstephenson]

Man…. There are so many seniors in my community who have decided to go on a carnivore diet. So scary. There is this “functional medicine doctor”, code for chiropractors rebranded, who is putting a bunch of 65+ people on this. It’s a train wreck. Just to clarify, I have nothing fundamentally against chiropractors. It’s just that some of these people basically think they are seeing a doctor. Plus, the business model is super sus. Some of these guys want $7, 000 USD up front to start your treatment plan. Before you even know if anything they prescribe works for you!!! I guess the real rub for me, is that they a beating this drum about allopathic medicine being money hungry, disingenuous, and fraudulent. They are doing the very things that they are accusing others of!!!😡😡🤬🤬

[paulvictor]

The CAC score detection saved my life. Point it is a good marker for further investigation.

[observingsystem]

I've been watching your videos for years (subscribed, of course haha) and I think you do great work and your ratio of serious facts versus serious jokes is optimal! Keep doing what you do, Mic!

[supercal]

He presented NO data on the prevalence of heart disease in people on a pure carnivore diet because there is no such data yet. Just a bunch of anecdotes and theories based on the data from omnivore studies.
Also, people on any diet can get cvd because it's prevalence increases with age. Just because a particular carnivore got cvd it does not mean it was the diet that caused it.

[KaKesFantasticO]

I work at a cardiologist office. One doc told me you can have false negative result if the plaque is evenly deposited as the imaging is looking for areas of higher plaque. I’ve also seen high scores show non-obstructive cad in a catheterization, but that just means for the time being. It has to be monitored…and patient needs to change their lifestyle and take medication if needed. I’m not a vegan but I love your videos!!

[robmcg]

The recent study by Dave Feldman showed no significant differenece in arterial plaque (either Calcified or Soft) between a cohort with an average LDL of 272 and another controlled cohort with an average LDL of 123 with an average age of 55 over a 4.7 year period.

[raithneach]

That segment with Dr Ovadia and the young guy with the high CAC score is terrifying. Surely this is gross malpractice. Those people are putting so much trust in him, if they dont come to harm it would be a miracle.

[sgill]

Im one these people that was unsure and got a cac done while doing keto. My score was zero but I didnt want to take chances. Ive since added beans and berries to my diet. And taking red rice yeast with berberine, low sf, more fibre, etc. Cant wait to see my next lipid panel.

[deanbrown]

Recently had a friend who eats meat with every dish have a heart attack at 36, I honestly wish the dangers of this approach was taught in classrooms. His not academic in slightest and system has just set him up for meat is fine attitude. His a great father too but his child will be in exactly the same boat until governments grow some balls and advise of dangers just like smoking. I know it's tough to question and fight these massive profits industries but it's literally killing people blindly.

[DaviSPinheiro]

I simply don't know.
Generally people who die from heart disease have other conditions, like diabetes, obesity, etc, etc.
Old studies don't look for this fact.
You hardly will see healthy people.

We recently had a study between healthy people and the results are great.

I don't believe carnivore diet is the optimal diet, but it certainly is nearer than most.

[Thunderstick-yh]

I have a question ? Anyone can answer ! Could a middle age man ( 51) have atherosclerosis if he’s frequently doing high intensity training with zero discomfort and blood pressure of 110/70 resting heart rate of 42 ?

[veganfortheanimals]

I know a dude in the gym, he's 63, and pizza and junk food are a regular part of his diet. His CAC is zero. Therefore pizza and junk food are ok to eat regularly

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