The 'Alt Left' is Very Wrong on Putin-Russia-Ukraine

--The "alt left" has been painfully wrong on the Putin-Ukraine-Russia situation, and we explore why and what happened
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Broadcast on February 24, 2022

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[neilmoore]

One can be anti US imperialism and Russian imperialism at the same time. It's not that difficult folks!

[WrecklessEating]

Tulsi is the first politician I donated to that flipped in a direction I don't care for. Big letdown.

[RoyGBiv-lctv]

I despise the alt-left almost as much as Conservatism. Grifters really get on my nerves.

[portmantologist]

There's an issue with referring to these people as "alt-left", because it doesn't have remotely the same connotations as "alt-right" does. The alt-right was basically just more openly racist and authoritarian than the mainstream right-wing but still agreed with most of their policy goals, whereas these so-called alt-leftist are not leftists in any meaningful way. I would argue that it would actually be more accurate to call Tulsi et al "alt-right", because they're effectively right-wingers putting up an extremely flimsy pretext of being leftists.

[wkzeier]

They are not on the left. Plain and simple.

[WolferusYT]

I don’t consider Tulsi as “left” at all anymore. She’s just honestly a right-winger now

[ethanvilla]

when Hannity calls you a "good conservative" while you're being interviewed on his show (like Tulsi was) you CAN'T be on the left.

[pamelawing]

NO one wanted to sacrifice for Poland, or Czechoslovakia, or France, or Austria, , or Denmark, or Holland(was called that in those days) until they had to.

[Kevin_Williamson]

Considering that Tulsi is a keynote speaker at CPAC this week, alongside the likes of Glenn Beck, Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, I have a hard time seeing her as anywhere near the 'left'.

[samrizzardi]

I wouldn't say he's the next Hitler per se. Just take his rambling speech four days ago and replace "Ukraine" with "Bosnia", "Lenin" with "Tito", and "Russian citizens" with "Bosnian serbs", and you'll have a hard time distinguishing it from a speech by Milosevic.

[slkais]

Anyone who's supporting what Putin is doing in Ukraine needs to imagine their bigger, stronger and more heavily armed neighbor violently forcing their way into your home and taking over every aspect of your life. Would you enjoy that and consider it acceptable, or would you hope that the rest of the neighbors would step forward to help you keep all that's rightfully yours?

[leftboxanderson]

Tulsi never was. Glen is applying for right wing membership and Matt seems to be on the bubble, JD Vance style.

[TroIIingThemSoftly]

Imagine a world where sitting members of Congress and a former president defended Putin's actions. It shouldn't be too hard, since it's the world we're currently living in.

[demcduff]

Tulsi Gabbard - I would never consider her a leftist. If she is, I'm not on the left, then.

[uktenatsila]

Well put, David. It seems some of these extremes are becoming thick as thieves.

[TheMajortanner]

Amen to that David. Some people are just out there trying to carve out an audience for the sake of it and are not out to seek the objective perspective.

[MrFilipang]

Agree with all your points but don't call them alt-left. They are not left wingers.

[johnroscoe]

Tulsi isn't a Dem at all. She says whatever is popular. She spent Trump's administration making excuses for Trump because she was bitter over not getting the nomination.

[sebastiancuadros]

When you’re so anti US imperialism that you’re pro Russian imperialism

[snapgab]

As someone who's very far left, I couldn't be more disappointed with the online left.

If it was just tankies then whatever, I've never considered them real leftists anyway.
But it's not just tankies, it's also leftists who I've never considered to be authoritarians, who do seem to be true leftists in most regards, but who are just too damn stupid to have a halfway decent foreign policy analysis when for once it isn't as easy as simply saying that the US is bad.
But Russia is fascist, Putin gave a fascist ethnonationalist speech, condemning that should be just as easy as condemning the US's imperialism, yet for some reason some online leftists struggle to do so.