Architects Patrik Schumacher and Mark Foster Gage face off

Two of the world’s leading architects, Mark Foster Gage and Patrik Schumacher, discussed their sharply divergent views about built environment public policy April 21 at Rudder Theatre on the Texas A&M campus.

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[hectororestes]

I love these kind of debates, so much passion and anger from both sides. This is what academia should be. Ideas worth defending, and worth attacking. More of this!

[absalomespinoza]

why do collages suck at recording audio?

[GuitarMan]

Awesome debate, Mark holds his own surprisingly well even though I fundamentally agree with Patrik's assessment of OOO as simple avant gardism, a shallow reading of an irrelevant philosophical notion appropriated to create an architecture that's different for the sake of being different. Just my completely unqualified assessment, both men clearly have valuable insights to share with one another and all of us. Shame about the audio at the start.

[atangerinebird]

There's a delicious irony when Patrick says "let a hundred flowers bloom" around the 17:00 mark. It's like having a modest proposal.

[thirumurugannithu]

guys just made huge part in architecture history

[hemiedwards]

I found it funny that Patrick doesn't seem to realise the irony of his claim that the belief that government represents the popular will is just a myth while also pushing his own fallacy about the capitalist market represents distributed individual choices.

[seanuio]

State interventions greatly contributed the the great depression? Somebody has been reading Murray Rothbard. Good to hear.

[faisalu-k]

We are witnessing a genius. I don't think people actually understand the sophistication of Parametricism and it's full potential. Saying Patrik is underrated is an understatement at this point.. We're going to be retroactively looking back in awe of these pivotal moments

[gavranarh]

compare this to Eisnemann vs. Alexander debate and it's shocking how discourse has devolved and even the simple ability to disagree in a polite and convincing way. This is the future of architecture? I'd rather pick Leon Krier any day.

[hectorterrero]

Gage is intelligent and all, but Schumacher is well-rehearsed in debate vs. state-interventionist and socialist arguments. He's been defending his libertarian position in public forums a while now, and it shows in his ease of retort to Gage's infantile terms of debate.

[lucyd]

I find some of Mark Foster Gage's responses to Patrik juvenile... for most topics/questions Mark just waited for Patrik to start first, and then look for quotes to attack, instead of really getting into the discourse. It's doesn't contribute much when he made "funny" remarks against him, or asking students who want to do parametricism to raise their hands. With Patrik's arguments and his way of expressing them - it is soooo easy to make comments that Mark made, be the guy who laugh and disagree.

[paulsuarez]

Patrick is simply on another level, this “discussion” felt like a father disciplining his crying son.

[grimydazzle]

Sound is terrible. Can't understand a word that german guy is saying.

[Theacademyofbarbarians]

Well, Patrik Schumacher clearly has no idea what OOO is.

[kayem]

Among the things that Post Modernism put an end to was the authentic intellectual.

[gregyoung]

How long are we supposed to wait for OOO to produce a recognizable architectural style? Graham Harman goes on about influencing architecture so much. Here Gage does as well, but as he even admits we’re still waiting to see something…Meanwhile, OOO is just rehashing Heidegger but claiming to be realist. Wake up. It’s not a realist philosophy just because Harman wants it to be.

[vadinho]

30 minutes in and Patrick Schumacher has pretty much wiped the floor with Mark Foster Gage. Saying that, Mr. Foster Gage is an academic, so no wonder he can't make any arguments that aren't fit for a discussion that doesn't involve pandering to college students' beliefs.

[JordanService]

That blue stripe on your pants invalidates most points. Terrible choice.

[AtTheEast]

Triple O is gibberish nonsense in Architecture. I get that many people are enamored by it due to its esoteric philosophical nature. But just watching Triple O inspired Architects, in this video, fail to articulate and enumerate what links their theory with their works speak volumes of how silly it is as an architecture movment.

[andrewgeorges]

i hate that im siding with gage but i guess even a turd facing pat looks good