Is The Creality Ender 7 Right For You? (Not What I Expected)

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In today's video we take a look at the Creality Ender 7. A 3d printer that I have been very excited for due to it having a CoreXY Motion System, Linear Rails, and advertised quick print speeds. I have had this printer for a couple of months and today we will go over its specs, what set up was like, how it prints, and I will give you my final conclusion on this printer.

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Great to hear that I'm not the only one who had issues with it. Nice review!

CNCKitchen
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I had the same issue of the nozzle getting clsoer and closer to the print on My Ender5 Plus until it eventually knocked the part off the bed and I figured out it was the leadscrew nuts that had been tightened within an inch of their life to stop them coming off in shipping and it was also causing a screeching sound so I slackened off each screw on the leadscrew nuts a half turn and that solved both issues

AndrewAHayes
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Wow, even with all notifications being turned on it's the first time I got one. "Turning off and on again" trick works! ;)

baalzevuv
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I've had this printer 5 months and I don't see any of these problems. The only tweak has been 210C for PLA and a set speed of 200mm/sec. Also, I set flow to 90%.
The most reliable printer I have. The top layers are not as nice as they should be, but I think a logical upgrade is to an all metal hot end.

The new Creality glass bed at 65C is outstanding.

truantray
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Thanks for the insights! Great in-depth details.
I feel this printers needs Joel's angle grinder touch...👀

marsgizmo
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Awesome review! You covered everything I wanted to know 🤩👌 500mm/ss acceleration is a shame… omg

printing
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6:53 That's where my trouble started.... I used the printer for 4 days, it's been a paper weight for 4 months now.. Creality won't help me with it either. Their initial response was, I didn't know what I was doing, (not wrong but besides the point) and I just needed to learn how level it. They completely misunderstood that I was explaining a noise coming from the motors and the Z-axis stopped moving. I don't know, I will get it fixed, but right now I'm still too mad at it.

barral
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a VolcoMosq LGX and Klipper would be a improvement

Nitram_d
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Had all the same issues you described. Was a very steep learning curve for me as a novice two months ago. The issue is definitely the extruder and/or hotend. It cannot extrude enough for high speeds. Check the Creality Slicer flow settings, they "fixed" it by setting 125% (!) flow rate for infill at 250mm/s. Also it's very "spongy" and delayed, so it's impossible to get the right amount of extrusion, because you have to retract like half a kilometer before the corner. Also couldn't tune linear advance (Merlin) or pressure advance (Klipper) because of that. Went with a Mellow NF Sunrise direct extruder and wow. Totally different machine. Perfectly clean prints now, even with high speeds.

petermeier
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Thanks for the honest review. I was considering the Ender 7, but ended up getting the CR-10 Smart because it had the auto-level and large bed. So far I’m having no issues with the unit I got.

MikeC
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I've owned an Ender 7 for several months and this is the first review that actually seems to describe the machine accurately. I've had the same issue with random over and under extrusion. No combination of settings and filament will fix it, seems to be an inherent issue. Print quality is terrible for a printer that costs £500, my £300 Sovol SV01 is far superior in terms of both quality and consistency.
The print bed is also deeply underwhelming. All my other printers have 'ultrabase' type glass beds, and this is by far the worst. PLA barely sticks to the textured side at all, and while the smooth side is a little better it's still bad. I fitted a BLTouch to make sure levelling wasn't the problem and it didn't help at all. Finally I bodged in a spare SV01 glass bed and that works much better, although I lose some print area because it's not the right shape and size.
But it's not a total solution. The Ender 7 still randomly prints too high or too low on the first layer. I'm positive this is something to do with the bizarre bed mounting system, which supports the bed on only one side and is very shonky indeed.
I could go on with a legion of complaints; the E7 is noisy with no silent board available for it, Creality haven't released the Marlin source code, and there's also a complete lack of spares for the printer. No beds, no hot ends, no replacement rails, no boards, etc. Creality seem to have abandoned it already. If something breaks, you're in trouble.

tl;dr - the Ender 7 is a cargo cult Voron. Creality thought that building a rigid frame and fitting it with linear rails and a core XY movement system would give them a fast, good quality printer. It didn't, because they have no real idea what they're doing.

drramtop
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That seems par for the course for Creality. They put together a list of quality ingredients and then for some bizarre reason substitute sand for sugar and you end up with a turd pie. Excellent review though. Look forward to hear if it can be salvaged in any way.

binarybrian
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I would like to suggest that you make sure that the stepper drivers on the board are adequately cooled. The lab in which I'm doing my PhD research has 3 old Taz Printers and one of them was consistently exhibiting a Z height issue after a rebuild which we couldn't figure out. Turned out to be a cooling issue in which the Z stepper driver wasn't adequately cooled. Once we put a beefy fan on the board, it came back to life. Maybe it would help with this one as well. who knows.

pilotwordtoo
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Did you do a follow-up? I wonder if a direct drive and new hot end with the Sonic Pad with bring out this machines potential?

jeffharrison
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Hi! How did the mods go, if you did? My bud told me that the Z carriage is too flimsy and not very accurate

bregbarega
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I haven’t looked but, did you ever end up doing any mods to the ender 7?

mikedezotell
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Honestly this feels really reminiscent of the issues I also had with the ender6. It took almost a year of upgrades to get it working along with custom Klipper firmware with a raspi, good review! Hope Creality gets good at the CoreXY game, bc mostly my ender6 has been a great motion system and not much more

arty
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I like your onest words and would like to see what you are going to make of the printer. I own a Ender 7 as my first Printer und
At first I print slow to tweak the Cura settings and get the best quality. PID tuning, feeder stepper motor adjustment (was nearly perfect), PTFE Bowden tube, got rid of the head ring what's o ever housing to see my prints and printed a small housing for the cable exit. Installed a BL touch.

maccooley
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The first think i do with new printers is go over all the screws and wiring
some time the extruder gear wheels have been lose or out of alignment and the tension spring has been to weak, so i normally upgrade these and shorten the bowden tube to reduce the friction

I have found many printers that i have had, is i have had to tune the Z height and E step calibration and also the heat of the bed and nozzle are out by about 5 -10 degrees, So I have not found a printer that does not have accurate calibration yet
one thing i can think of, is the larger stepper motors could be drawing to much power from the main board and causing a surge, and that could be the reason the motors are making more noise,
I normally see DM542 stepper drivers used for Small cnc machines where the noise does not matter as these are not quiet unlike the TMC2208 drivers that should of been used and have less noise/frequency problem than the DM542
and they should be very well insulated and they are not, so this could also be causing issues like stepper motors being out of sync because the pulse to move the motors are not accurate.

so i i buy a used Ender 7 i will change the drivers, and im sure that will solve the issue with it.

spudnickuk
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can you state the price first thing in the spec section? the pricing is still the key factor when people decide what to buy. thanks

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