An Organized Body - Juan Carlos Contreras

Those who are inclined to regard their individual judgment as supreme are in grave peril. It is Satan’s studied effort to separate such ones from those who are channels of light, through whom God has wrought to build up and extend His work in the earth. To neglect or despise those whom God has appointed to bear the responsibilities of leadership in connection with the advancement of the truth, is to reject the means that He has ordained for the help, encouragement, and strength of His people. For any worker in the Lord’s cause to pass these by, and to think that his light must come through no other channel than directly from God, is to place himself in a position where he is liable to be deceived by the enemy and overthrown. The Lord in His wisdom has arranged that by means of the close relationship that should be maintained by all believers, Christian shall be united to Christian and church to church. Thus the human instrumentality will be enabled to co-operate with the divine. Every agency will be subordinate to the Holy Spirit, and all the believers will be united in an organized and well-directed effort to give to the world the glad tidings of the grace of God. AA 164

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[reginadiehl]

Pastor Contreras, I really like the spirit of your message. You are very easy to listen to. Also, I thank you for showing honor to Our Heavenly Father Jehovah by using His name. This is exactly what we see Christ Jesus THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, who is also seen as Micheal the Archangel doing. Christ, often came in the name of His Father Jehovah, to glorify His Father rather than himself. Example; Christ would say, I Jehovah.... because he wanted the focus on his Father rather than himself, but, Christ was the one who was speaking. 

That was a very brave thing for you to do, because many people don't understand Jesus glorifying the Father's name. I thank you again for this wonderful, informative message.

[midlertidigjan]

I can nowhere in this presentation see or hear, that brother Juan indicates or affirms a superiority of phm in relation to other organisations of believers. He states at one point the sad truth of the corporate SDA being in apostasy.
But what I get out of this short presentation, is the reminder and absolute vital necessity of each individual to kneel at the feet of Jesus Christ, let your heart be broken, and ask to be cleansed by his blood and filled with his spirit. Then I will be able to serve my brethren as Christ serves. Wether it be with phm, or any other affiliation. Any organisation has to be decentralised because its responsibility is to serve locally, but centralised in a spiritual way, as Christ is the head and center.

[hadleybee]

Sorry I am all thumbs on this phone. Sorry for the typos I can barely see.

[hadleybee]

The Spirit of God manifestly directed the new organization as they came out of Judaism the APOSTATE order anyhow.
The Spirit of God also directed the order of the Advent movement and blessed the organizing of it in spite of the misgivings.
This happened as a rest of the APOSTATE protestants rejecting the first A gels message hence the Second Angel sounded " come out of her".
Then the great disappointment further sifted the people and the third message began to be revealed as the sanctuary was opened in Heaven.
Those who followed The LAMB wherever He led were established on a firm platform.
Then there came the sleeping time...then the falling away and then the three angels messages are repeated in their order.
The fourth angel is the repeat of the fall of Babylon hence a coming out again due to the apostasy of the church through errors and unlawful relations with the world and it's leaders and rejection of the testing truths.
Again we see God's people in agony striving for the victory and obtaining it and then after the outpouring of the Spirit we see the people united and organized harmonious "fair as the moon bright as the sun and terrible as an army with banners" they give forth the message and NOW it has power it has effect.
People who hear those honest souls come out and suffer persecution with those giving the message.
The disciples were not united similarly till after their disappointment at CHRIST death and after much time in the upper room waiting for the promise of the Father.
They humbled themselves and were no more seeking the highest place.
Then being together they received the outpouring and i.mediately gave the message and it had effect.
They sought the mind of CHRIST regarding the section of Matthias to replace Judas.
When the time came for Peter to go to gentiles God poured out His Spirit on them manifestly declaring His will.
NOW WE ARE AT SIMILAR CROSSROADS WE KNOW THE ADVENT ORGANIZATIO HAS STRAYED FROM THE FOUNDATION.
WE MUST COME OUT IF HER. NOW WE ALSO NEED THE VICTORY AND UNITY OF THE SPIRIT AND THE MANIFEST POWER OF GOD TO LEAD US IN HIS ORDER.
God made it clear when Aarons rod budded that he was chosen. NOW how can we know who is chosen as leadership and undershepherds? Is it not those who hear the truth of God to us?
Let us hear what the Spirit sayeth to the churches.

[stephenlake]

So, Juan, are you saying that all independent ministries need to be united under PHM?

[Lysimachus]

I’m losing more and more confidence with Pioneer Health and Missions, and can now see more why now Daniel Mesa cannot be intricately a part of them. This focus on having an “organized structure” like the conference system is imitating an apostate system. Yes we are to be organized, and disciplined. But to organize yourselves like the conference system, is a perversion of the texts and statements this video is using.