FINALLY! We think we know why Mecca was chosen!

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The Islamic Traditions have always claimed that the Hajj has only occurred in one city: Mecca.

Yet, the historical record researched by Gibson now suggests that every one of the stages of the Hajj were practiced much earlier and much further north, in fact 600 miles further north, in Petra.

What's more, the 'Masjid al Haram' (the forbidden place of bowing) Gibson found also existed in Petra long before Mecca.

Most significantly, however, Gibson discovered that the reasons behind moving out of Petra to Mecca had everything to do with Politics, and virtually nothing to do with theology.

The pilgrims were simply following the 'black stone', as they believed that God's presence rested with the black stone; so wherever it went, so did God's presence go, which ironically is still today housed on the Eastern corner of the Ka'aba...in Mecca!

But isn't that idolatrous, and doesn't that commit the one unforgivable sin "Shirk", the belief that equating anything with God (in this case the black stone) is punishable by death?

Note: This episode was recorded in December 2019, and then updated in April of 2021.

© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2021
(46,640) Music: Adding the Sun, by Kevin Macleod - from filmmusic-io
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Al Fadi is cool as a cucumber. Extremely composed. A good counterpoint to Jay. God bless you chaps.

cpswyl
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The origin of Islam in Petra has much more support historically and archaeologically than does Mecca.

richardthornhill
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Bro, Dr Jay Smith I am so proud of you the way you explain every detail of their Religion. you are my Hero and I pray to the Holy spirit to inspire you and give you good health, happiness and prosperity to carry on this Monastery. God bless you.

josephinehira
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Not to mention that Surah 26:149 explains houses exactly like in Petra, I even was there!

SheikhKafir
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I’ve been saying this since I lived in KSA during 2017-2019 once I’d visited Madean Saleh (before it was wildly popular) and before the country became “open”. Thank you for backing up with details 🙏🙌👍Great work y’all.
Our Lord works in mysterious ways. Amen
His will and His timing 🙏

ResearcherofArabPagans
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Loved visiting Petra in 2005. Marveled at the water delivery systems, carved structures, caves.. Truly amazing. Please illuminate.

Calatriste
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Thank you a lot for such interesting discussion. Mr Smith tells us a story with so much passion and love. I really enjoy him saying things in arabic - so poetic language. I am not muslim and not arab, but i like such discussion

polipoli
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I have recently seen a television programme where people were digging and finding artefacts in Petra. I would not be surprised if one day something is found to prove these theories on Petra. Something which would say 'Muhammad wuz 'ere, ' so to speak.

linda
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On the issue of mecca, Dan Gibson's research is the most convincing, in my opinion.

marutanray
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Jesus Christ bless both of Al Fadi and Jay Smith, alongwith their family.
Love from Indonesian Christian...

oki
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Petra was also known as Becca or the place of weeping and they had a temple dedicated to Arabian gods aka Masjid al Haram or the forbidden worshipping place for pilgrims that was destroyed by an earthquake although it's still standing partly.

therealkitdiengdohofficial
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Roman Emperor Heliogabalus took the stone from Petra for a while and paraded it in Rome as symbol of his god Sol Invictus.
I always suspected that it was the same stone as the one in Mecca.

lorefox
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I have always been amazed by someone walking around a stone 7 times and kissing it that we don't know whats inside

faithfultoyeshua
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Thank you very much for this series!!!! With gratitud and love from Mexico City!!!!

elwiramendezs
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Very informative, thank you for your hard work and thank you for sharing, God bless.

jamalkhan
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Glad see the opening screen displays Petra, where Muhammad's family came from. All the Muslim rituals came from the annual Hajj where arabs made annual pilgrimage to their ancestors' tombs in Petra

peterjackson
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Al fadi and Jay Smith both deserve applus from all the humanity loving people all over the world. They have done great service to the truth seekers. It is clear beyond doubt that muhmmad was born and raised in Petra instead of Mecca . Petra is the original birth place of Islam. Whole muslim world should welcome this fact. Hajj pilgrimage in Petra was continued till 1986 . After it was forcefully discontinued by Jordan and UNESCO . Now please focus your attention on the muhmmad biography which is 90 % fabricated . He has been depicted as womanizer, sex addict, extraordinary playbuoy, filthy, inhuman war Lord, cruel, slave trader. Please scrutinize his life and deeds.

Vankatraman
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History never lies, false prophets do.

svennielsen
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When I heard Gibson talking about the qibla facing Petra I get his argument… the in between and finally the Mecca direction follows a time line😊

Ghredle
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Also, the water course that Mohammad was supposed to have run in 7 times between the 2 mountains exists in Petra, not in Mecca

seanmacsweeney