Why Do People Pay to Win in Video Games? @Emiru @Tectone @AsmonTV @steakandeggspod

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Gacha games aren't the best example of pay to win. A big part of gacha games is straight up gambling addiction. As a TCG player (magic, pokemon, one piece etc.) nothing can replace the joy of, cracking open a pack of cards. Arguably it is much cheaper to buy the individual cards of the powerful decks in the meta, especially when you play a standard format that often needs multiple of each card. (Compared to singleton formats like commander where you only need one) so the chances of getting four copies of a super rare but integral card from packs is nigh impossible.

Despite the ease of buying singles, and the money I would save from not opening packs, there is something so nice about pulling a sexy collectable card. Same kind of logic for your waifu pngs in gacha games.

Compare it to something with a literal pay to win store where you can make a one time guaranteed purchase of a stronger item or character. Then everyone just buys that one item and the company makes no money. It's all about treating that addiction to get people coming back for more even when the thing they are after isn't even the meta defining thing.

toromisher
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Different people have different skill levels. If you are sucky and something is too hard, you give up from the frustration. If you are awesome and something is too easy, you give up from boredom. Riding the line where you have the same skill level as the game requires is where fun is.

mauriciogerhardt
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I'm pretty sure it's just a gambling addiction, these games are often designed that if you pay money, you aren't guaranteed to get the thing you are looking for.

Robby-Rob-Robertson-III
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Honkai Star Rail is a poor example, but ultimately it's like cheating, but instead it's legal cheating.

Ali-cya
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Free players: sounds like they have a skill issue
Paying players: sounds like you have a financial issue

AceIndiana
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Usually when I asked people who whale their way to endgame, they tend to say that "it's more efficient" or "it's a waste of time if I do it they way other people do it".

They do it also for "pride" like how they beat the other whale in rank. The way they enjoy gaming are completly different from majority of people.

khbro
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for honkai star rail specifically honestly, even if youre f2p, with the free 4 star units alone you can trivialize the game at some point, fire mc, march, natasha, qingque theyre just really strong units even tho theyre 4 stars

Frost-tqhr
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I actually understand people who pay in gacha games, not because I'm a gacha lover nor have I been interested in gacha games but it's because, to them, this is how they wish to spend their money to get the most fun.

If you think about it, it's no different from spending money to go on a trip or to a theme park, you spent money to have fun and relax.

The worse end of pay-to-win is when it is a strictly competitive game where it's players against players. In a gacha game, you're only affecting your own progress and no one else's experience is ruined because of that.

It's fun to some individuals who perhaps want to feel superior to others, a way to dominate others but they don't want to spend the time or lack the skill to do that, instead they just use their credit cards.

mckenzi
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It's nothing more than a lack of patience/impulse control.

jesfest
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Another thing is both kinds of players are investing resources in order to win.
They spend money, you spend time.

ThatOneDude
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"If you suck too much..." DAMN dude Tectone is RIGHT THERE.

DjinniUS
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To me it's not about the accomplishment but rather the frustration. You ever played a game where after grinding something out, all you feel is glad that it's over? You can skip to feeling glad that it's over. There's a sense of accomplishment in laziness too, like "wow i managed to do 10 hours of work in only 5 minutes, that's huge!" Same with people that brag about having an easy, high-paying job, or winning money by gambling.

Zadamanim
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I actually pay in Genshin Impact to get the characters that I know I want because I know it could be a year before I could see them again. It’s not that I can’t beat the content, it’s that I want to be able to use content locked behind unfair practices (but I’m willing to pay to get around those practices so I accept it)

IMTSin
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A lot of people spend money not to win but because they really love the character…





And also cause they addicted 🤣

nathanjwriting
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People pay to win for the same reason people buy fast passes at amusement parks:
They are happy to sacrifice money to save the time it would otherwise take to get to the fun part.

And for the people who will inevitably go, "by the fun part IS the waiting in line", to YOU. Other people have fun pulling the characters they want as soon as possible. Others enjoy admiring a complete set/deck/collection

TheTsugnawmi
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I think it is the rapid spike in power. It feels nice to go from noob to god in a credit card swipe. In some games it is also cheaper time wise to pay instead of grinding for ungodly amounts time.

zukodude
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It is a different aspect of achievement I think. Free players proud themselves in spending their time grinding away to reach high level. Pay to win players could just want to reach that high level but don't have time from other commitment, mostly jobs. So they use the pay to speed up path.
In a sense, you can say they already did the hard part which is working and buy their way up in the game is their treat.

Leonlion
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Brag about accomplishments with Pay2Win < Blow your accomplishments out of proportion because you didn't spend a single penny

guestb
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Pay to win:
1. You work and earn money
2. Your time cost more than payment to shorten the process
3. Who doesnt like good looking, useful, high damage characters skill etc...
4. You spend x/24 hours of gaming in your day so why dont spend a similar fraction (usually way less) of money in the game?

azul
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pay to win is not exactly bad itself the reason why so many people hate pay to win players is because of those toxic pay to win players in certain pvp games or base building pvp mobile games they give pay to win players a bad rep

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