Ulalek, Fused Atrocity Stacks are Insane!

[Enja_Near]

Mirror box, Ulalek, echoes (pay to copy), forsaken monument, scultping steel on forsaken monument, cast any eldrazi and watch arena force a draw because it can't handle the maths.

[gamefreak]

and lets not forget that echoes is a kindered enchantment and Ulalek doesn't say "cast an eldrazi CREATURE Spell" so if you have the mana you can easily get two echoes making this stack nonesense even more of a logistical nightmare. I keep flashcards with my deck to help with stack logistics

[jonthompson]

Make more example videos. I'm still trying to figure out how it works. Beginner level over here

[lucasbenattii]

Thanks a lot. As a new player (less than a year in Magic), it was a good stack explanation

[PirateFoxBox]

im a bit of a newbie when it comes to these kind of stack stuff, at 3:20 he says "lets copy it again" im assuming by using ulalek's ability, but how? isnt his ability triggers when you cast an eldrazi spell? the spell was already cast and now you copy it with ulalek and with the enchantment, how does the extra stack copy here able to happen?

[benjaminkillingbeck]

How are you able to keep using ulaleks triggered ability? You only casted on spell, meaning you would only use his ability once, right?

[Inkushu]

Just got ulalek, yeah he’s not going in the deck build, to the binder he goes.

[ProtoAssassinZero]

Because of you all my friends hate me and I really appreciate you because of it. 😂

[chrissoto]

you actually made a mistake. ulaleks trigger is odered, spells first, then actuvated or triggered abilities, meaning the ulalek trigger is always on top. adutionally, wouldnt the thriggered echoes abilities have to hit and leave the stack before the actually trigger their copying?

[Psykhotoshi]

I play tested my Ulelek deck with Echos to eternity and Mana Echoes. So if I can make 2 other copies of Echoes of Eternity making it 3 total on the battlefield and then I cast any eldrazi creature, I can make an infinite amount of those creatures on the stack with Mana echoes present on the battlefield. It's freaking insane that Mana Echoes replaces my spawns and gives me infinite mana to create a infinite army.

[maunewty]

So long as you have the mana, this can go on forever
Two Ulalek triggers allow for infinite copies of the first time it triggered, so long as you can pay for it. Ulalek copies spells, then abilities, and you get to choose how you stack the stack, but triggers happen after spells always due to his wording. So those Blisterpods wouldn't hit the field until you choose not pay the two. Also the enchanent copy of the spell is due to a triggered ability. It technically hasn't copied the spell until you let it resolve. So its more like:
{{Blisterpod}} > [[Copy spell]] > [[Ulalek]] > [[Copy Ulalek]]
You could then copy the stack and make it
{{Blisterpod}} > [[Copy spell]] > [[Ulalek]] > {Blisterpod} > [Ulalek] > [Copy spell]
Or
{{Blisterpod}} > [[Copy spell]] > [[Ulalek]] > {Blisterpod} > [Copy spell] > [Ulalek]
The latter is more optimal, and you always keep Ulalek on top unless you want to be able to resolve a way to get mana to be able to pay for his trigger.
Another round would be:
{{Blisterpod}} > [[Copy spell]] > [[Ulalek]] > {Blisterpod} > [Copy spell] > {Blisterpod} > {Blisterpod} > [Copy spell] > [Copy spell] > [Ulalek]

[jaceg]

And this is why I am happy attractions are legal in commander. Ferris wheel my beloved, when sacced after phasing something out, only "Time and Tide" and "Karn Liberated" (specifically his ultimate) will get you your commander back once it got scooped up by the wheel.
(Ferris wheel phases something out until your roll a 3 or lower to visit an attraction, if you don't have attraction, say, because they are artifacts, and you have an artifact sac outlet, you do not roll to visit attractions, and thus whatever is phased out stays away permanently. You might think there is a condition that the thing comes back if the ferris wheel leaves, but that is not the case. (also also, if you want to be even more evil, you leaving the game (say because you lost the game to someone who is miffed about not having their commander) will not return the commander, it remains phased out))

[CtmstrSchndr]

what do you mean with original blisterpod on the stack?
isnt there just one original blisterpod on the stack? what did i miss?

[LaniBoo]

With Ulalek ability can you pay 2 as many times as you want to copy a spell or is it only one time per spell?

[iburnandfume]

This is the first time I've ever felt like I do not have the right to use a card on the count that I'm too dumb to handle it. lol

legit I barely understood the video. after the 2nd copy, I have no clue how the stack ended up looking like it did. Please help!

[_Blu_Print_]

So.. would this stack look the same, but with 4 copies of the echoes if there are 2 echoes on the field?

Asking cuz I pulled this off turn 4 and paid for Ulalek's ability 3 times, and I am curious what would happen past that. 😅 The goal is to make a formula to expedite the calculation process for 2+ echoes on the field.

[MrAnthem]

Trying to learn the deck and after trying to learn since Ulalek’s release, I can confidently say I’m still lost when it comes to stacks. For example: Ulalek and Roaming Throne are out. I played Writhing Chrysalis and also pay 2 mana for Ulalek’s ability. I know two copies of Writhing Chrysalis are made but I’m not certain if the copies also create tokens, because if they do, each Writhing Chrysalis creates four tokens, giving me 12 tokens that can be sacced for mana.

I now know of another Eldrazi card I want now though lol

[kyleadams]

I thought you could only use ulalek once per spell cast.

[OfficialMaddeck]

I removed everything from my ulalek deck that would make me think too much.

[AliceIzuragi]

just need either roaming throne or echoes of eternity and you have a infinite army.
and ulalek ability procs off of the copies. so long you have the mana. UNLIMITED POWER
edit: my mistake. it was ulaleks ability getting copies by echoes or throne that was then getting copied by ulalek.