Patch 11.0.5 Class Tuning Winners and Losers

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may have spread a little fake news about dk deathbringer changes btw hehe, misunderstood the changes there

dratnos
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I can’t believe dratnos cheated in the poddyc trivia

HumbleJon
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Dratnos is completely clueless about fury warrior, no other words for it

Millennium
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bringing up the rank 1 parse of a fury warrior on mythic ansurak fight which specifically fury's damage profile is really good against as a reason to nerf the spec more is wild.

sneakyturtle
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them buffing frost dk and arcane is ridiculous

Kadaren
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Fury is almost useless if there arent any very low hp adds for them to burst and thise low hp are not very important to beginn with this change plus the last nerf just shouldnt have happen. The only thing in the entire game were firy outclasses others is bursting queen roots and p3 adds. Fury doesnt even do food dmg in m+ anymore wich was the only thing warrior haf

itslit
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Mage getting a 11.7% buff? They’re literally on drugs..

Moonwired
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Icy veins just released damage breakdowns for mythic and fury warriors are the fourth worst overall dps, and do less single target than aug evokers. Pointing to one fight and saying they need to be nerfed sounds a bit disingenuous in this context. Let’s also not forget that fury does burst aoe and nothing else. Our utility kit is non-existent and if a class like mage or dk ends up doing similar dps it means that fury is worthless. Damage is the only thing we bring.

DasAngryGerman
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Couldn't disagree more with your opinion about warriors, especially at every other raid boss at any other difficulty and in any m+ dungeon. Argumenting "in a vacuum", as you call it, also has nothing to do with reality - if overpowered classes are getting buffed while already weak classes are getting nerfed it's rather frustrating.

scanGfu
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Making Destro AoE so abysmally bad with a completely pointless "fix" for a problem they already addressed in beta, without any form of compensation is so unhinged yet not mentioned

Tuckzrz
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Warriors are good at very specifically Ansurek. That's insane to say they should be nerfed again.

TerentiusD
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very nice that they nerf fury the whole time cause they literally designed every fight in the raid for their cooldowns and as soon as you hop into m+ you either overaggro cause of your burst and just die or you deal 0 dmg after 15sec into a pull in high keys. Ty Blizz

PaulSollmann-cd
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my theory is they have a new intern who just does some random tuning and let them release it

Eldorante
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I can't wait 'til the Shadow Priest dev is returning from his 3 month vacation

LilSnikkel
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Talks about Fury, pulls up the one good fight we have (Ansurek), a fight that is literally perfect for furys damage profile, and uses that to justify more nerfs without ST buffs or sustained AoE compensation. To be clear I hate Fury's stupid burst niche it gets me killed if I use my cd's one global too fast all the time. But once that burst is gone that's it we suck and it shows in every encounter outside of ansurek. If we are so good at AoE and its not just burst then look at logs for Silken Court. Ovinax is similar to Queen its just burst parasite pad. Fury warrior sucks right now and its Niche is making it look decent.

DhatBlitz
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Bad take on warriors imo. Saying dk needs trade off buff/nerfs for ST/AOE while being better for all content except 3 fights feels super anecdotal. If you look at end of dungeon damage or total raid dam/dam to bosses fury is becoming below average. But getting high numbers on 3 fights makes it okay to be bad elsewhere.

zachhanley
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As a fury warrior main, that's a wild take to say we should keep catching these L's lol. We're good at 2 fights in the raid and that's about it. Outside of that, we're middle of the pack at best. It's wild that blizzard is ignoring how lack luster our ST is.

Kohmuh
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Fury warrior deserves the nerfs, well said by someone who doesn't know what a key is, every fury warrior is popping full CDs on small adds that live in 2, 5 sec making them look big in Raid meanwhile they're behind everyone on ST and consistant AoE also, imagine playing the game for a living and still being so clueless about it holy fuck

khaldraven
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What a great patch we're getting. The classes that dominate M+ and the important raid bosses are getting buffs in ST and AoE, while the classes that are already low in terms of DPS balance are getting nerfed or not even mentioned.

tegridyfarmer
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Kinda bs to 5 target cap warrior capstones but not other classes. Should really be either all dps are capped or no dps are capped.

TheFreeman