Reacting to THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER (1990) | Movie Reaction

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Thank you for joining me as I react to The Hunt for Red October for the first time. I hope you enjoy the video and my reaction!

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Video Contents

0:00 Intro
2:08 Reaction
36:20 Review/Outro

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Reacting to THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER (1990) | Movie Reaction
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I've never considered how difficult it would be to understand this movie if you don't know what the word 'defect' means.

mikewhite
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Maybe this will help clear up the confusion you felt in the whole movie:

The Russian bosses did not tell Ramius to start a war.
They were just testing their new Red October to make sure everything is working. A simple mission to evaluate the ship and the crew then come back home.

Ramius stole the Red October and sent a letter to the Russian government saying that he stole it and will defect to the U.S.
His plan is to take the submarine and himself and a few other officers to the U.S., become a U.S. citizen forever, and the U.S. will be happy to agree because they get to keep the Red October and learn all those Russian secrets.

Russia went berserk trying to stop that, even to sink the Red October so that it doesn't end up in American hands.

But Ramius knows he can't just defect.
The russians would want him, his crew, and especially the Red October back.
If the U.S. tried to not give it all back, THAT could start a war.
So the U.S. would probably have to give in and send Ramius and the sub back to Russia.
So if Ramius just cruised on in to Washington and said "Here I am, I'm defecting." then he would most likely be back in Russia in about a week, and dead the next day.

Therefore Ramius thought up a genius plan to save his whole crew AND make Russia think that he and the Red October were all destroyed so they won't ask to get any of it back.

Jack Ryan figured it all out.

Jack got the captain of the Dallas to tell Ramius to go to the Laurentian Abyss, one of the deepest places in the ocean.
Why?
Well, if a ship (or sub) sinks there, say, the Red October, no submarine on earth can go deep enough to find the wreckage. It's lost forever.
Which also means if it does NOT sink there, no submarine on earth can go deep enough to find that there is no wreckage.

Pretty clever on both sides.

Then all we need is a fake accident to make all the crew go outside because they think the accident is real and they cannot survive inside.
This is necessary because they aren't part of the plan and most of them would want to go home to their wives and kids - if that happened then Russia would figure out all the rest.

Then stage a fake battle with an American submarine that pretends to sink the Red October and Russia will never, ever find the wreckage, or actually, that there is no wreckage.

Of course, then a Russian submarine showed up and almost ruined the whole plan, and having a KGB saboteur on board was also a problem - but that made the movie that much more exciting.

blakewalker
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Ex-U.S. Submariner here.... The book and movie are amazingly accurate when it comes to the technical stuff. I was stationed in Groton, CT (at the time, the world's largest submarine base) when this movie was released, and we all got to see the Navy-sponsored sneak preview the same day the submariners in San Diego did. We all yelled "Bullsh*t" at the few (basically three) bits of technical inaccuracy, but other than that, this is pretty solid. I was on a boomer, and know what it is to be hunted 24/7 like the Red October was during the Cold War.... Ramius was the kind of captain every officer and sailor of every world's navies hoped to have.

themidsouthcyclist
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When Scott Glenn was preparing for his roll as the Commander of of the sub he was invited to shadow an actual sub commander.
The captain of that sub told him the crew would be treating him as commander, so when someone would give a report to the commander, they would then turn to Scott and give him the same report.
That commander was so calm and cool that Glenn decided to base his character on that commander.
The commander went to see the movie with his wife and the wife leaned over and said, "My god, he's playing you."

erictaylor
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“I think I know him.”
Yes! From “Rocky Horror ” to “Red October”, it's Tim Curry! He really is an astonishingly versatile actor.

RealTechZen
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Back when this was first released, my grandfather was a movie buff and really wanted to see it, but was incapable of going to cinemas any more. I was able to lend him my VCR and the video so he could watch it. I was really pleased that he got to enjoy it before he passed away, so it has a very special meaning to me.

TheRealRedAce
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A couple of years ago I took a train that went all the way across Montana. While traversing across I said to myself, "At least I've seen Montana."

lawrencewestby
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Former submariner here... boat: a boat goes underwater (sub), a ship travels on the surface. Boomer/ missile boat: ballistic missile submarine. First strike: nuclear weapons are generally categorized as first or second strike weapons depending on whether they were meant to start or end a war. Submariners are generally defined as second strike weapons because they can remain hidden when a war starts. 105%: indicates power level of the reactor. US reactor are designed to operate at 110% power safely, while Russian reactors have no safety margin. 1 knot = 1.85 kph = 1.15 mph. Crazy Ivan: subs are blind to the rear. To check if someone is following them, they will abruptly turn to check if anything is behind them.

Tampahop
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Sean Connery was that kind of actor who could use his same voice for every character he ever played and got away with it, because... he's Sean Connery!

jimpemberton
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I was a Sonar Supervisor on a fast attack sub when the book came out, basically the real life Jonsey. Everyone on the sub read it and spent hours discussing it. The book and the movie will always have that special connection for me. Hail to all Brothers of the 'Phin!

BugahaJim
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The man who wrote the book, Tom Clancy, was an insurance salesman who was very interested in the military and espionage, and his first novel was "The Hunt for Red October." The CIA was extremely concerned by some of the details in the book, believing that Clancy may have gotten military secrets illegally, but Clancy kept records of all the information he collected, and it was all from public sources. He wrote many more books featuring Jack Ryan, several of which became movies and an Amazon series. He also became a noted lecturer on the military and spying. He was an exceptionally successful writer.

mhlevy
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"I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops."

best line in the movie and one of the best movie quotes.

mayorjimmy
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He sent the letter announcing his intentions because he knew that eventually a point would come where his fellow officers who were intending to defect, would get scared and want to turn back. The only way to ensure that they all went through with it was to send the letter ensuring they could never go back (Burning the ships so to speak, so they were well motivated to continue with the plan to defect).

elzar
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Tom Clancy, who wrote the book originally, was investigated by the U.S. government because they thought he knew too much that was in his book. He knew a lot, but guessed at others.

mikerhodes
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"He's very calm for being a madman."
Dawn you always put a smile on my face.

billbabcock
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"The Hunt for Red October" is one of those movies, that is very re-watchable. It never gets old.
Boomers & X-Gens are more familiar with the military jargon from all the war movies, that used to play on television, when they were growing up, plus since they grew up during The Cold War, they understood the general situation of the World at that time, and what the word "defect" in the context of this movie means; escaping the Communist East in order to settle in the West.

sparky
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80's, Toilet paper was used to keep your Cathode Ray Tube monitors clean. Before microfibre cloths.

leftcoaster
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Terms like "defect" (seeking asylum in another country) were far more common in the 80's and prior during the cold war, no shame in not being familiar with them. Those of us that were alive and saw this in theaters were far more familiar with the terminology as we grew up during the cold war. Also, the original orders were for a training exercise. Ramius (Sean Connery) changed the plan to have an excuse to take the boat into international waters where they could hand it over to the Americans. As for the letter he sent to his friend in the Kremlin, that was to assure his crew had no way of turning back and that they were committed to the plan of defection.

brianjones
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Operation Petticoat (1959) and Down Periscope (1996) are a couple of funny Submarine movies worth checking out.

myrdozer
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Sean Connery only speaks one accent no matter who or what he's playing.
We love him anyway.

blakewalker