Intel's FINALLY admits fault... though more problems surface....

Intel has posted two seperate posts, one on their community page and another on reddit, both admit there are different problems. The first is incorrect voltages which will apparently be patched next month. The other? well that's oxidation which was apparently only limited to a batch of 13th gen CPUs... Regardless the tactics in play seem like a massive deflection and delay process, especially when you dig deep into the finanicals.

Chapters
00:00 The problems look worse when checking the financials
06:18 Problems that should have been addressed a long time ago....
09:28 not just limited to desktop CPUs?

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[marktackman]

When Intel says the problem will be fixed in months, they mean it will be fixed when the next product comes out. They should be sued.

[felixlersha]

You were way ahead of the curve on this one Bryan. Your "Why does a 10900K FEEL faster than a 13900K?" video came out over a year ago. So you were aware of these issues long before Gamers Nexus and Level1Techs jumped onboard. :)

[dhgodzilla]

I tried to stop someone I know from splurging on a 14900k prebuilt system. They insisted Intel fixed the issue, I told them they have not. But he will live & learn the hard way I guess.

[jqwright]

Intel was a house a cards and AMD woke up one day and sneezed in their direction.

[HybridizedGaming]

This problem is absurd. I shouldn't be in the BIOS configuring voltages like I'm Georg Ohm to fix some defect. Thank you for highlighting the issue.

[vocalninja]

What's amazing is that bulldozer cpus will outlast 13th and 14th gen 😂

[thetheoryguy]

I highly doubt Intel will ever go bankrupt, I think the US government would step in to help pull them out of bankruptcy. Its too important to let Intel go under with it being the main and most high tech chip fab the States and all the tension and uncertainty with Taiwan. I think Intel needs to be humbled for sure and get it together. Also if Intel did go under everyone will find something else to complain about and blame AMD for raising prices and not pumping more cores in chips as usual.

[ChairmanMeow]

If they dont make more of an effort to fix this I dont really see anyone buying their new core ultra lineup. Trust is broken.

[DukeofSerbia]

Not every 13th and 14th gen CPU is Raptor Lake.

These are Alder Lake (rebrands from 12th gen) and they are not affected i.e. they are safe buy:
13600 (non-K only)
13500/T
13400/F/T (C0 revision only; mostly in retail / B0 revision is Raptor Lake; mostly OEM)
13100/F/T
14500/T
14400/F/T
14100/F/T
300/T

[TheBackyardChemist]

Here is the thing, even if this was just a manufacturing or validation issue that has been fixed since, the 13 and especially 14 900K are so much of a "top bin" part that they might not even have enough good yields that meet that spec to do a recall or process all the RMAs. Like seriously, the 14 900K has to be able to run at 6 GHz or whatever in order to meet spec, I doubt that more than 1% of all dies can do that without excessive voltage that destroys the chip on the long run. Who knows, could be as low as 0.1% or 0.01% of manufactured dies...

[outlet]

For my latest PC build I chose a 14th generation INTEL CPU. I now feel like the bad guy in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. He's given a chance to get the Holy Grail. He has many to choose from, but he chooses the wrong one and dies. The ancient Knight says, "He chose poorly." I guess I also chose poorly.

[lou]

AMD be like: "Yeah, we are delaying 9000 series just a bit to make extra sure everything is good. Don't want to pull an Intel or anything" 😂

[Renaguard]

'I am never going to financially recover from this' - Intel

[glancevincent]

This becomes even more of an issue if you run mini ITX builds. I struggle to keep my 13th Gen I5 13500 on an AXP90 Full copper X47. I am running the latest b660i firmware and have the intel default setting. Still runs hot 90C's.

[techwandoUS]

People have questioned Igor's Lab lately with some of his stuff, but that internal Intel piece he recently put out stating they aren't even sure it's a voltage issue is something I believe. They are just trying to scoot by as easy as possible, like you said...
This could bankrupt them.

[lrmcatspaw]

I remember when I was telling everyone to stay the F away from intel cpus since the 12th gen due to them running HOT and with so much goddamn power.
And a lot of people (not everyone) was saying its fine.

So yeah.... pushing 200+W into a cpu is a problem, what a surprise.

[connorsone]

so at least we know that the 10 gen functions as it should

[mwmv]

If every 13/14 gen CPU is a ticking time bomb than well... It will not end quiet, like Intel wishes.

[Riketorian]

I have a 12th gen intel i7-12700k and even this one had an issue. The memory controller failed almost immediately and it took me 6 months of trouble shooting to figure it out. Thankfully intel was real easy with RMAing it after I provided the proof and the replacement CPU has been solid so far for a little over a year. It was an intermittent issue which made tracking down the issue very difficult and everything looked like bad RAM which wasn't the case.

[JohnWiku]

These problematic CPUs are condemned, there's no fixing it, only "mitigation" and that means total nerfing of the product.

There's no salvaging this situation and keeping these CPUs running at full blast at the same time.