Countering 'Ben Shapiro destroys Karl Marx in 60 seconds'

This video is a reply to a video by Ben Shapiro who claims to "destroy Karl Marx" and fails to do that. Instead opting to name features of "Judeo-Christian values" and "Collectivist philosophy". I explain everything wrong with Ben's takes and explain the lack of connection between Marxism and collectivism.

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Hello everybody. Today we are doing a reply video again, I just felt like needlessly attacking someone else and picking apart their arguments. And who better to make a video about than fax and logic man himself. Ben Shapiro. We are gonna have a look at his video titled “Ben Shapiro destroys Karl Marx in 60 seconds”. I thought about how to do this for some time. I decided to just show you his entire video here so there is no accusing me of taking things out of context. Interestingly this video was uploaded like that to Ben Shapiro’s own channel. Usually the “Ben Shapiro destroys X” videos are made by some fan with 50 subs and usually taken out of context. But apparently this is the intended experience uploaded by Ben Shapiro himself. So he clearly doesn’t think that we need to know the context to this. That being said here is his video:“This is the philosophy of collectivism. The philosophy that says that human beings suffer because the Judaeo-Christian system expects too much of us individually. Judeo-Christian philosophy expects us to struggle, to strive. Judeo-Christian philosophy demands that we do our best and that we act virtuously on the individual level so that we can feel secure without invading each other’s rights. The Judeo-Christian tradition says that with freedom comes responsibility. Collectivist philosophy however thinks differently. They expect us to give our individual striving up. No more striving no more struggle. All we have to do is trade our individual responsibility for the comfort of collective power. Collectivist philosophy points out that individual virtue isn't natural, it is a struggle and we can avoid that struggle by handing over all power to a nanny state. Judeo Christianity says you are free and therefore you must give. Collectivist philosophy says you are unfree and thus the state must take on your behalf.”Alright where do I begin. Maybe with the fact that he doesn’t mention Marx once. Pretty brave for a video which supposedly destroys Marx. The video is generally kind of lacking in argumentation. It’s just “Collectivism is this” and “Judeo Christian values is that”. Like, literally all sentences are either about collectivism or judeo-Christianity. Mentioning this is all he does. And that’s a problem because there isn’t a single argument in there.So, let’s have a look at what kinda things he says. According to Ben features of collectivist philosophy are: That it says humans suffer because the judeo-christian system expects too much. That it thinks differently from Judeo-Christianity. That it expects you to give up individual striving. That it wants no more striving or struggling. That we have to trade individual responsibility for collective power. Somehow. That it says that individual virtue isn’t natural and that a nanny state should do it. Also it says that you are unfree, apparently. And the one ben prefers, Judaeo-Christian says: That you need to struggle and strive. That it demands that we do our best and that we act virtuously. That we can feel secure without invading each other’s rights. It says that with freedom comes responsibility. And it says that you are free and that you must give. Something, idk what the video ends there. That’s a lot of assertions and we’ll have a closer look at those towards the end. For now let’s try to figure out what these assertions are supposed to tell us. I would argue he is trying to make collectivism look bad, and further I would say he pretty obviously thinks that Marxism is collectivism or at least collectivist. We can tell because Judeo-Christian philosophy is his favourite useless concept. I will make a video on Judaeo-Christian values eventually. Probably in the style of my video about basic economics. Tell me in the comments if you want to see that. So, from a Marx loving perspective I have to defend this half and discredit this one and then Marx is saved, right? No not really. Because Marxism barely has anything to do with collectivism. There is a connection but it’s very small.

[carlos_herrera]

'Ben Shapiro straw mans leftism in 60 seconds...'

[ishaan]

Let's say, hypothetically, for the sake of argument, aoc sends me feet pics

[svevo]

Good morning, I'm Aquaman's real estate agent and I need to speak to mister Shapiro about a very interesting business proposition.

[ElCoronelBlanco]

I've realised something with the right wing recently - their strawmanned "leftism" still looks better than the beliefs they argue for

[jeremygreen]

He made a fool of himself for a shit ton longer than 55 seconds.

[sonnyjrgensen]

"With freedom comes responsibility"

Alright Uncle Ben, calm down.

[fettyhabte]

Ben: use facts over feels
Also ben: marx bad cause god

[skortana]

I love how he makes Christianity capitalist when Jesus literally stood with the poor and even threw a tax collector's table and stood up to the oppresive authority which barely helped the poor making him pretty much a socialist

[blankslate]

Imagine thinking that Marxism equals lazy when Karl Marx outlined a vision for a society in when labour would be “not only a means of life, but life’s prime want.” Clearly Ben hasn’t read any Marx, not even the Communist Manifesto I’m sure, let alone The Critque of the Gotha Program.

[Sigma-xbkn]

But have you considered the fact that vuvuzelas exist?

[TheQuigs]

Ben Shapiro has never destroyed anybody in his life. Jesus if Marx was alive today he would wipe the floor in a debate with him.

[KeganTheTowel]

Please make a video about the scapegoat of "judeo-christian values"

[taiwoolaleye]

you could literally google collectivism and see this "the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it".
"the Church has criticized the great emphasis placed on individualism rather than collectivism"

[severdislike]

Ahh, good old Ben "The insane clown grifter" Shapiro, because why have a remotely coherent ideology when you can talk fast and just keep burying yourself in stupid lie after nonsensical stupid lie.

[saddoro]

Viki 1999 DESTROYS Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Karl Marx in 60 seconds in 1007 seconds!

[markfoster]

Lol I took 9 years of religious education - Jesus was a socialist. “The possibility of a rich man going to heaven is that of fitting a camel through the eye of a needle”

[homosapien]

I never want to hear the words Judeo-Christian ever again

[theawesomeanarchist]

7:45 fun fact: If you search buffoon on bing images you get images of trump.

[qweensara]

The most fascinating thing about all of this is how those people can just say some random stuff and a bunch of smooth brains will just believe him. But when someone explains stuff in a logical and consistent way those smooth brains just say its "neo-modernist cultural marxist propaganda" xD

[brinkipinki]

0/10

no benches appeared

disappointed :(