Did John the Apostle Actually Die As A Martyr?

One of the most fascinating finds of my research on the deaths of the apostles was that some leading evangelical scholars believe John died as a martyr. What's their evidence? Is it convincing? This video is part of my class IN DEFENSE OF THE RESURRECTION at Talbot School of Theology (Biola U).

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[JWCFB]

Sean although I'm sure you have taken quite a bit of heat for doing your dissertation on this subject, I appreciate all the time you put into it because I would much rather go where the truth leads than where tradition leads.

[jwmatthews]

What do you think about John 21:21-23? It reads as if the author is addressing then-current discussions about whether John was supposed to live on and not see death (as if John had died and perplexed the Church because they had thought Jesus said he would not die). It reads almost like a post-script, editorial comment written after John has died.

[alcolumbo]

Good analysis as always. What caught me off guard was the tie. What's up with the tie?!! Lol. Just kidding. It looks great. Thank you.

[InTheWordWithPastorBrad]

Great study---thank youso much for you hard work and clear, helpful teaching--good job!

[physiotipswithmarrow]

Great video. Thanks for sharing what is known and what could have happened. I would love to know who started that legend that John died at the end of first century. Do we have credible sources or just legends? How he would have survived Patmos in his 80's or how he would have written on Patmos while under Roman guard? Was he alive, did others write the Gospel of John in his name? Why the gospel of John was not accepted by the early church and did not become mainstream until late second century. Why the Gnostics liked and quoted from Gospel of John? So much mystery about this Gospel. I have always believed the traditional view point because that is what you are suppose to believe. That being said, most church historians believed Paul wrote Hebrews until the 1800's. Now most agree that he probably did not write Hebrews. Keep the videos coming and thanks for your research. Maybe we won't know the answers on this side of heaven.

[ruggjugg]

What's the likelihood that he didn't die what if he's still alive today, and that's just me referring to the passage that says what's it to you if he's the one that I want to live till I return when Jesus was speaking to Peter

[kdietz]

John doesn't identify himself as the author of the Gospel of John, nor does he provide any first-hand account of any resurrection sightings. Therefore, whether John died as a martyr or not is irrelevant.

[OGDirtRocker]

Thank you for uploading this. I learned some new stuff. I need to get your book on the martyrdom accounts one day.

[chrismckinley]

Is it possible that Hippolytus (disciple of Irenaus, disciple of Polycarp, disciple of John) was correct in his account about John’s remains? If so then John has had a long time to fulfill Jesus’ prophecy about him, that he must “prophesy again” before many kings etc. Did John deny Jesus’ words that he would remain, or did he simply reiterate them?

[alwayslearningtech]

As an atheist, you are one of my favourite Christian apologists, however I'd love to see you join "the dark side", lol. You're more honest than most about your doctrine and truly a breath of fresh air. I'd love to see more Christians being willing to be intellectually honest about their beliefs as well.

[darryltan]

Bauckhams personal view is the gJohn was not written by John son of Zebedee, but by another disciple coincidentally also called John.

[RS-dbeo]

Are these lectures part of the masters or are they also present in the certificate in apologetics @ BIOLA?

[colmwhateveryoulike]

Inconclusive but I doubt Jesus didn't mean he would die that way. He hinted the same to Peter. So I wouldn't be surprised if the report was accurate. Can't be sure though.

[STRaphelCatholicChurch]

I am sorry I am confused - I thought that John was beheaded by Harod - per Matthew 14:1-12? Am I confusing “Johns” ?

[aarons]

And the Didache gives instructions on using hot and cold water to baptize people... Church "fathers" (Call no man father...) are often full of some serious errors and Paul was dealing with many of those errors in his life as well.

[spkekillr]

Buckram doesn't argue that John the son of zebedee wrote anything.

[AdamMeaney-zszw]

John died 98 ad? He was an old fossil! Who would want to live that long!?!? Awful😑

[eljaecam]

How did pagan RCC knew the books of pagan jews were legit and how come theyre an authority on what books to include in their "bible?"

[onamiilove]

Man made opinion don't usurp the word of God? John suffered(cup) died for his belief in Christ on the island of patmos.(martyr)🙏🏼. It's not that complicated.

[vaughangarrick]

He never tasted death. He's still alive. He is to tarry until the Saviour comes