MARVEL | Loki | S1E6 | He Who Remains explaining the Multiverse scene

He Who Remains tells Loki and Sylvie that he ended a multiversal war caused by his variants, isolated his timeline, and created the TVA. As he has grown weary, he offers them a choice: kill him and end the singular timeline, risking another multiversal war, or become his chosen successors in overseeing the TVA and the singular timeline. Sylvie decides to kill him, while Loki pleads with her to stop. They kiss, but Sylvie sends Loki back to TVA headquarters. She kills He Who Remains, unleashing a multiverse with timelines that cannot be pruned.

[thewanderingone]

The way he said “I ended… I ended the multiversal war!” really showed how much toll that decision had on him in choosing to make order in only one universal timeline, and how much he must have sacrificed and been through to get to it. Contrasted with how out of touch he’s become after being alone like this for who knows how long. Brilliant acting.

[ibeetellingya]

True Story: The script didn't have him get up on the desk. He improvised that and other dramatic flairs, and everyone loved it.

[harrisont]

I love how close this guy is to absolout freaking insane. He’s lived an unspeakable amount of years alone, not after fighting in an apocalyptic war and slaughtering countless versions of himself.

[maxlegomaster]

I love that you can feel the sociopath within the GOOD version of himself. Imagine how terrifying Kang the Conqueror is

[IphigeniaAtAulis]

I like how the actor plays the character as seeming to be slightly unhinged. It makes sense in the context of what this guy did and continues to have to do for peace.

[ntlezombininjengele]

I just think he let himself get killed because he's tired of it all. The dude had done it all already and was just tired of all the monotony.

[blackaxe]

I believe Ant-Man 3's Kang is another variant of him. The statue guy would be the main villain for Loki S2. Jonathan Majord may appear everywhere in future Marvel projects, playing a different versions of himself. That's a crazy big role to take.

[SuperWiiBros]

this really explains and reveals so much

[xbaker]

Honestly, Kang is a living embodiment of that timeless question. “If I met an alternate version of me…who would win?”

[DrunKao]

Warning contains theories and potential spoilers: You should know that when He Who Remains says he has lived longer, longer than he looks, he genuinely means it, and on a far greater scale than anything else in the MCU or even basic human comprehension of time.

This Kang, He Who Remains, can be compared to actual god of this MCU. Not some half-god or demon. He has completely control over all of time and everyone and everything in it.

When he says he's seen things play about millions of different ways, he means it.

This version of Kang has literally lived for millions of years, managing his universe and it's timeline to stave off versions of himself reappearing and starting another war which he believes, might not just destroy his universe along with the minor splinters/aka multiverses that his TVA has to prune to maintain stability.

This version of Kane really is human and flesh and blood. And the reason he doesn't age, is because no one ages in his domain where the citadel resides. The same applies to TVA's workforce. Mobius. Judge Renlayer. They are much much older than they appear as well and also regular humans extracted from various pruned timeline. They also don't age. And they've been doing their jobs for a very long time.

He was literally offering our two Loki variants immortality. But the cost of that immortality would be having to manage the TVA and the Sacred Timeline... for all time. Always.

Spoilers: The TVA operates in a similar way as the Citadel domain. This domain is known in Marvel Comics as the Void. Time does not exist in the Void. Or more accurately, all of time, past present and future all exist simultaneously. The white ring around the citadel, the sacred timeline. That was all of time.

Now we get to the TVA. In the TVA time either doesn't move, or it moves extremely slowly. And my guess is that the only time the bodies of TVA agents experience is when they're out of the field pruning and snatching variants.

Also a nice theory is that the TVA resides in the quantum realm. Which could account for time passage at the TVA.

This can also be why Kang is Ant-Man's next movie. Because they go to the TVA.

[lbxwxfq]

Interesting how he speaks in third person when talking about his origin - suggesting that it has been so long that not even he is sure anymore - but when getting to weaponising the monstrous Alioth, he shifts to first person, showing clear certainty that he was the one who defeated the rest. Funnily though, despite the certainty, it could still be a half-truth, even to him, in that his survival and control lead him to assume that he had to be the one that ended it all.

[ery]

This scene proves that Kang is not a god, he is just an organic matter that has incredible knowledge who tries to act like god but end up being feel bored, fragile, and insane

[richardpage]

He's a great actor, the part when he said he weaponized Alioth, and the way he was just staring when he said we just crossed the threshold was amazing acting.

[jijapuli]

This was basically one big exposition dump but it didn't feel like it 'cause Jonathan Majors was so good

[chillpill]

"You came to kill the devil"
This line isn't in this clip, but I love how he says it after explaining the Multiversal war. This is a man who doesn't claim to be the good guy. He's the: "good enough guy, and be glad that I'm the one that won because if you think my choices are dark and bad, you don't want to see the others".

[KoOkiEzRoCkz]

My god the way the GOOD guy seems so insane, followed by “See you soon” as he dies makes Kang terrifying. A foreboding yet inevitable villain.

[youbigdork]

FINALLY found the full scene and not a break every 10 seconds thank you so much

[ravenmoon]

At this point in his existence, I doubt he is even capable of seeing anyone as truly alive. Everyone of us is just one of a limitless number of variants, doomed to spark for an instant of time before being extinguished forever. Uncounted in number and meaningless in the backdrop of the overall timeline he composed. We aren’t people, we are just pieces in a game, one being just like the next on and on and on…

It’s impossible for him to be morally relevant in regards to us. His knowledge and position as the only one who really knows what is going on forever…
No, we aren’t important to an entity like that. It’s like a single flame 🔥 on a Bic lighter. One flick and you are there. One more flick and one just like you appears. In the end, not one individual is memorable in any way. Just a spark, a light and a wisp of smoke. Then on to the next and the next and the next…

[igorpolyakov]

SPOILERS FOR MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS: Given what we've seen in that film now, one can see why Kang might have considered alternate timelines and universes to be dangerous. Not just because of the existence of his variants, but because incursions, whether as a result of Dreamwalking, or simply invading other universes, causes them to eventually collide with one another, destroying both realities. This puts into perspective the greater danger that the TVA he created was meant to stop. The Multiversal War initially came about not just because of his variants, but because of variants in general seeing what their other versions have, and wanting their lives as well. And since traveling between the universes can alone cause incursions, one can see how the previous Multiversal War almost ended ALL of EXISTENCE had it not been for his variant succeeding in weaponizing Alioth and streamlining the Sacred Timeline.

Now that the Multiverse is in play again, we can expect all future films to feature greater instances of incursions, realities destabilizing and Kang the Conqueror eventually seeing this and deciding to fight the war again, defeating his variants, and weaponizing Alioth all over again so that the story comes full-circle. That's of course assuming it'll head that way, and not perhaps change things differently that doesn't result in a variant of him living at the end of time again, becoming eventually bored and restarting the whole cycle. After all, his "noble goal" is no different than Thanos who believed ending hunger and death due to overpopulation by killing half the universe was "the only way".

[kalaong]

I have a theory about this. Think about it; Thanos killed half a universe, but HWR killed *entire* universes. *REPEATEDLY.* All because alternate versions of himself were so arrogant and selfish they couldn't co-exist with any others.

What does that do to you? To realize that somewhere in you is something so horrifically evil that it would never permit others to keep what it desired to take?

And then somewhere along the line, what if this hits you; *You* did exactly that? *You* conquered the multiverse? *You* are every bit the Conqueror as the one(s) you hate so much?

You know what I think? I think HWR out-and-out *lied* about reaching a "threshold". He knew *exactly* what would happen. He *knew* that Slyvie would kill him. And he *wanted* that to happen. And he wanted Loki-L1130 to escape and warn others, find a way besides the TVA to protect the multiverse from conquerors.

Because He Who Remains was killing more people every second than even the worst variants of Kang ever did; because even the most genocidal variants of Kang permitted alternate universes to exist in the first place if only so he could conquer them.

Because after endless lifetimes of annihilating universes, how do you admit, "I screwed up?" How can you possibly ask for help when you've spent aeons enforcing your will on everything you know to exist?
Perhaps you just find the absolute sneakiest SOB in existence and tell him, "Here's what happened. Now excuse me while the nicest variant of you, who I've tortured for her entire adult life, kills me as painfully as she can."