Is Destiny Consistent on Ethics?

[CosmicSkeptic]

Full podcast on my channel. Quite hard to condense this discussion into 60s, but the question is: if most epistemology is based on unprovable intuition, why can’t ethics be too?

[truthseeker]

It took me half an hour to figure out Destiny is the name of the guy and not the matter discussed…

[AndrewNajash]

Excellent podcast, it’s so nice to have destiny talk to someone who is equipped to give proper pushback to some of his ideas and make him bite bullets he hasn’t had to before

[sambal]

Me trying to figure out how 4 people can stand in a circle without it beeing a square...

[caspermadlener]

"The most important aspect of an opinion is the situation in which you would realise it to be incorrect"
-some smart guy, probably

[charliekowittmusic]

This is the EXACT point where Destiny should’ve conceded his point.
Yes, we have to make some assumptions to agree on morality.

But we ALSO have to make some assumptions to agree on literally ANYTHING!

[_herzog_]

I'm not trying to be a dick but these shorts from long conversations are funny: each guy uploads only their little wins in the conversation

[mr_yoru]

I think he's fairly consistent in how he behaves. The problem with his outlook is that his ethical system is designed to give himself a pass for bad behavior rather than an opportunity for genuine introspection.

[stevenlester]

Alex is 100% right. The idea that you can reject knowledge because you can’t come by it empirically is contrary to a vast majority of the things that we think we know.

[redgreen]

I feel like there’s a pretty obvious way three guys in a room could convince a forth guy who doesn’t believe murder is wrong that murder is wrong but I don’t like condoning violence so I’m not going to say it

[joebuck]

I’ve run a battery of observational tests, and I’ve determined that this dude has blue hair.

[robertnett]

Ah... the classic, you can't measure the system, while in the system problem....

[toniokettner]

even if you grant that not even a statement like "the earth is round" can be confirmed in an objective process, it doesn't mean that it's therefore no more answerable than "murder is bad". you can always say: "assuming that we define reality to be whatever we all perceiving) which is basically identical between different people), then in that reality, the earth is round". you can't do the same with moral questions.

[christophercombs]

Hard solipsism is a lazy cop out because regardless of everyone being a barin in a vat or even having a belief we are barins in vats we must still engage with the world and behave in accordance what our perception shows us and waht rules we can discover about the world we collectives SEEM to be engaging in

[mnkEz]

Values are ultimately subjective, but there are few value systems in which cold-blooded murder cannot be easily condemned.

Ultimately, society cannot function if people can kill each other for any or no reason. Regardless of whether it's based on altruism or self-interest, most people have a vested interest in minimizing the chance people are killed going about their day.

[Anuchan]

Four people in a room. 1 is a flat earther, 1 believes the election was stolen, 1 believes in pizzagate, and 1 believes in lizard people. After 5 minutes they would realize they were all incels.

[Diane_]

The thumbnail made it seem like Destiny was saying that murder is ok😭😂

[lordmew]

People keep saying that destiny is wrong or ignorant, but Alex hasn't proven him wrong. All he has shown is that destiny skepticism doesn't go down far enough. Destiny has made one leap of faith that the reality he exists in is real and true because he can personally feel it but isn't willing to do the same for different claims. This is fine and doesn't prove the existence of objective moral claims. Even alex in this video says he believes in a system that doesn't believe in objective moral claims besides saying how one feels. Honestly this is why destiny doesn't engage with this stuff generally because people act super high and mighty about stuff beyond testability and that doesn't have any real affects on the world. I love philosophy too but this stuffy attitude towards people who engage with philosophy on the surface just keeps people away.

[gorgzilla]

When I say “murder is wrong” I am basically saying that our basic intuitions and assumptions are, generally, that murder is wrong. This set of basic assumptions and impulses surrounding “right” and “wrong” behavior is present in most humans, which is what morality is. In other words I’m kind of a moral subjectivist, but I think that evolution has caused the vast majority of humans to at least implicitly agree on certain basic moral axioms, and from there we should construct laws and moral systems that are consistent with those axioms

[bobbyboywonder]

All moral systems end up In absurdity. You simply have to do what you opine to be the best and hope others feel that way too. That’s about it.