How Strong is Heroes Goku?

Dragon Ball Heroes Goku goes by many names, Xeno Goku, Capsule Corp Goku... by many know him as the strongest version of Goku to ever exist. But how strong is he actually? Today I share my thoughts and give a comprehensive power scale to Goku from DBH! Is he multiversal? Hyperversal? Outerversal? Boundless? Lets find out!

Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:52 - Heroes Canon
4:09 - Who is Heroes Goku?
6:11 - Scaling Heroes Goku
#goku #dragonball #dragonballz #dragonballsuper

[lonkstakes]

Can't wait for people to tell me Goku is actually boundlessly outerversal...

[alexandermattis]

I already know this is gonna be insane cuz heroes scaling isn't even a scale, it's a speeding bullet train that long forgot where the rails were and just decided to say "Fuck it, we ball!"

[eliteplayer]

Goku clears the tiering system. That’s all I have to say.

[Meldoron]

As someone that hasn't consumed any Heroes content at all, this video was like a fever dream. If I ever get into Heroes, I'll still be just as blind as before I watched this.

[Jasonash]

Good and comprehensible video, but jesus the scaling in heroes is above the concept of insane

[hardcoore_gyt]

I’m not gonna lie this video feels like it was pulled straight out of 2020. The downplay and misunderstanding is crazy. One Beat wasn’t even a saiyan until he entered the game. We see this clearly when he literally creates his avatar ON SCREEN!!! Two we know this is the case because if you actually read the manga and played the games it’s stated that Demigra had to “transcend the multiverse” to reach it. Or when infinite history is destroyed it clearly doesn’t affect his home. Which would make no sense if it was the future or a alternative timeline.

[cmn]

daima outscaling heroes would be so funny

[nguyenlightduy]

I know 5D Is just "minimum"
But I think it still too low
Like even DBS cosmology can already be scaled to 5(Or even 6D) pretty consistently

[ramiobeid]

There has been multiple statements that the afterlife is higher dimensional. Not in the show itself, but by guides and people who worked on DB. Goku is already 5D minimum from DBS because of his feat from Beerus. I've seen people scale him to 6D because the guide for DBS Broly says that Broly and Gogeta destroyed a "super space" when they were punching each other to alternate realities. I don't understand how that works to be perfectly candid, but if someones wants to explain that to me, I'd be willing to listen. I know for a fact he's 5D at least, I would just like an explanation for the 6D part.

[ethioanime]

I have a crazy idea. There is an official statement saying that cc goku at the first arc is exactly super goku after top. So if cc goku was equal to ssj4 xeno goku then by proxy super goku should scale to xeno goku's feat.

[MLamar]

Don't let OfficialDivine and Kazi see this😭😭

[TheKoriKasai]

Dragonball universes are like bags of seeded grapes. Each seed is that of the base dimension. The mortal realm, hell, otherworld. That sorta thing. Each grape is the overall universe that contains them. Each bag is the timeline the 12 universes exist together in. Other bags are other timelines

[abhijeetgolder]

Kinda disagree with macrocasm scalling .

DBS COSMOLOGY is like this.
1. universe/living world.
2. demon realm. unbound of science and math laws
3. Dimension of Strange Swirling Lights. it's extra dimension or SUPER DIMENSION call it whatever and there are multiple of them stacked on each other and it's above PREVIOUS dimensions.
4 . Afterlife which is not just above but TRANSCENDED dimensions mentioned here.
and flow of time doesn't exist or works here. (It's similar to how flash in dc once RUN'S into a place where concept of death doesn't exist to escape from death )
5. Heaven's as big as universe and exist within afterlife.
6. HYPER time chambers these are locate within universe but exist independent of its law's and casuality. Multiple of these located in living world/ universe .
7. Hyperspace it's only mentioned once in db movies it's still a part of main verse cosmology.

All these REALM'S /dimensions are seprate
from each other by a barrier and all of this are confined within a barrier and all this barriered structure is called macrocosm . And every single one of realms mentioned in these are infinite in size and surpass each other in hireachy and dimensionality .

living world = Hypertime chamber =< Demon real = Hyperspace (4d ) << Stack of super dimensions (5d, super dimensions are just one tier abive the previous one's ) (it isn't just above or surpass previous dimensions/ realms it TRANSCENDED ALL of them ) (Currently at lowest interpretation it's 6d or 7d at it's highest interpretation whatever amount you need to transcend the previous one's) =Heaven.

then kai o shin realm which revolves around macrocosm from outside and similar to afterlife in hireachy .

and there are 12 of them at currently exist on a higher plane named as null realm where macrocosm are seprated from each other but exist on it . This realm can hold any amount of Macrocosm structures previously it had 18 and no upper or lower limitation is mentioned.

After Null realm comes comes ETERNAL VOID realm / Dimension.

THIS realm is completely empty and contains nothing inside no concept, no quantum entanglement, quark nothing and in terms of hireachy it's equivalent to null realm. amd can be put above it but there's no further explanation given.

after this realm comes Zeno realm which transcend all of these transcending REALM'S/ dimensions . AND in zeno's realm from within Zeno palace Grand Zeno can play with every Macrocosm if he wishes (no wonder this little tweep had two bodyguard and one of the strongest being all time with him to monitor him.)

[DSXL]

I was expecting Heroes Goku to be crazy, but "5-D+" levels of power is nutty lmfao...

Great content as always man, love to see the growth 👍

[godzillakingofthemonsters]

Should be noted Goku was able to match Demigra with UI Omen by himself for awhile even while low on energy, and was equal to him with Vegeta's help.

[acertainmysteriousvirtuoso]

Oh I've been waiting for this Lonk.

[deltalord]

Huh thats weird infinite 5d to 6d power feels like an extreme low ball almost borderlining on downplay to me. Even taking into account the extra dimension you said could be added at the end i feel like thats even downplaying it. Especially since basic statements from the games like supreme kai of time being able to hold infinite multiverses together with said multiverses having infinite timelines/dimensions qualifying as bare minimum mid complex multiversal and that start of series supreme kai of time being essentially fodder in the verse to krillin. I thought the heroes verse ranged more from around complex multiverse+ as a lowball to hyperversal as a general midball and outversal as a high ball with stuff like game goku getting authors authority from tori bot and arale scaling in general should be encompassed in heroes. Though they may be different versions the general comology should be connected due to the "all of dragon ball history statement"

[Jsipki]

Good vid lonk awesome p.s: I still hope we can get that Wolverine gauntlet vid🙂

[andyplays]

2:35 Its stated by trunks that for demigra to enter beats universe he needs to transcend space, "space" in this context being used as A space or space time aka the dragon ball heroes multiverse so beats world is the "real world"

[nuclearwaste]

Sounds like a lowball. But you did admit you were only using mainly the manga. So thats probably why you got it so low.

But this completely ignores beats real world, the charisma world, one piece, toriko, arale's world and the numerous other higher dimensions that exist in the franchise and cosmology. You also didnt mention the other games referenced and mentioned in the franchise to.

And you completely ignore the hax. 😂

This is like scaling canon goku only using the material from the original dragonball before his fight with raditz. 😂

Its a good start, but quite frankly i have canon goku at 5D to 6D. 🤷‍♂️ i can easily get heroes goku to outerversal. I dont even need that goku to hit that level, xenoverse goku can hit that level.😂 and hes fodder to heroes. Just a sub space in his world already has infinite timelines. Its a dlc. Its not even a primary timeline. Mechikabura's feat is canon fodder there to. Demigra did the exact same thing.and goku with no ki and no god ki, mostly dead, nullfied that attack😂.

So yea, maybe manga only heroes is 5D to 6D. But when you take into account the entire canon, especially the games, he gets much higher. You even bring up the hypertimeline theory, that alone can get canon goku up to like 9D. In heroes that alone is hyperversal.

And i dont even need the arale meta. Thats just one more layer of fictional transcendence on top of beats world and the charisma world.



All that being said jump force goku is still stronger. Like by narrative hes stronger. And god fusion goku is even more powerful than that. So heroes goku is not the strongest goku.