MWL Roundtable Highlights – April 24, 2018: LOC in Flight in GA (Short Ver)

More general aviation pilots and passengers die from accidents involving loss of control in flight than any other single factor. Prevent Loss of Control in Flight in General Aviation is on the NTSB 2017– 2018 Most Wanted List of transportation safety improvements. On April 24, 2018, the NTSB convened a roundtable of industry and government experts to discuss the current state of the problem, and highlight available technologies and training. The roundtable explored challenges to implementation of current technologies to reduce these largely preventable accidents. This video shows highlights of some of the discussion areas.

This video shows highlights of some of the discussion areas.

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Chapters:

01:25 Seek Training Opportunities
02:10 Don’t Fear Mistakes While Training
02:36 Dust Off and Improve Your Flying Skills
03:53 Professionalism is the Cornerstone of Safety
05:08 Flying Skills: Areas to Improve
07:41 Focus Your Flight Review
09:28 Debrief Yourself After Each Flight
09:57 Using Simulators for Stall Awareness
12:01 Angle of Attack Indicators: A Valuable Tool
17:29 Using Technology to Improve Debriefs
18:34 Fostering Innovative Solutions
24:38 Improving Angle of Attack Awareness
27:41 Innovations for the Cockpit
32:18 UPRT Training is Highly Valuable
34:00 Challenge Yourself to Improve
35:33 Reducing AOA is Critical To Stall Recovery
39:06 The CFI's #1 Job: Create Safe Pilots
39:49 Use Social Networks to Make An Impact
40:42 CFI's Should Pursue UPRT
41:22 Share Education Through AOPA
41:42 Technology Should Aid Pilots, Not Be a Crutch
42:01 Allow New Technology on Older Airplanes

43:41 Closing Slide - Social Media Platforms

[tomagoston]

Thank you for distilling this panel’s discussions and presentations. Very useful and educational!

[michaeldunlevie]

I had not heard of the "two minute debrief" mentioned at the end of the video. My father, a multi-1000 hour pilot since WWII, told me when I got my PPL, "after each flight, sit down and ask yourself 3 questions. What did I do wrong? What could I have done better? And finally, to end on a confidence rise, What did I do right." That has served me well and is the "debrief" for me.

[tomcurran]

Video shows a picture of Sen. Ted Stevens' Otter crash in Alaska: I understand that was a CFIT accident, not LOC.

[vanessachristie]

As a Part 141 UPRT vendor, I commend the NTSB for releasing this summary video that addresses Loss of Control Inflight and advocates a proactive approach to training for each and every pilot. I firmly believe there is no substitute for on-aircraft training and learning how to methodically recover from stalls and spins while managing the reality of startle.

[johnjohnson]

Thank you for posting this video so we could all share the comments from the panel. What I am seeing right now in the GA instructional world is a trend to teach flying small training GA aircraft as if they were Transport Category jets. Most of these are ab-initio programsadd many have marginal English skills. Instructors are teaching their respective students very bad habits by increasing their distance form the runway environment. If the student were to experience an engine failure in the landing pattern, most would not have a chance to get back to the runway because they are too far away simulating B-737/A-320 patterns and procedures. Teach them how to fly the airplane they are flying. Build on basic skills, reduce dependence on "Electronic devices and auto pilots". This may have helped prevent the B-777 Asiana accident at SFO and many others.

[ajborda]

AOA devices are expensive for individual pilots. To that end, has anyone thought of developing a purchasing group for GA pilots to help us get better pricing? One purchase at a time at retail is what may be deterring buying these safety devices and if we could get wholesale pricing, that which would be seen by Universities and corporations, will help get these deployed into the GA fleet.

[douglasjohnson]

Thank you. Great to see this and need to get more to watch. Never thought of the NTSB as a place to speak about safety opposed to individual accident investigations, outcomes, and recommendations. Why so few people in the audience? I want to be in the room, !