Correcting Quackalope and ultimate fallout - final update

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0:00 Intro
1:17 What I'm covering now
2:06 What's new
3:17 Correcting information
7:44 The problem continues
8:50 An apology behind a defense
10:26 The fallout

[bencpower]

I've been following Quackalope for a while. Jesse I dont think his intentions are bad, but I do feel he has classic narcissist tendencies that get in the way. He stretches the truth, gaslights, has a grandiose opinion of himself and his work. He constantly snips at his work partners. He's pulled some stunts to get attention then plays victim when they go bad. He's turned to click bait titles and controversial content to generate buzz and conversations. I think this situation is just a by product of who he is as a person, not something he was actually trying to do. Every person that has worked with him has left for probably these reason. He's going to really need to work on himself to change the way people view him.

[oliverlam]

I agree.
He is apologizing to everyone who misunderstood him. He never apologizes for his own actions.

There are so many content creators out there.
I much rather spend my time and money on others.

[BayonetRecon]

Please don’t let this be the final update. I just bought a large box of popcorn for the occasion.

[hornsfan]

Thanks. I didn't want to wade through other social media sources to find out the resolution to this, so thanks for doing the research and providing the epilogue (which is about what I thought it would be). Nice, thorough production despite being on the road!

[mattnottm]

A simple 1 minute apology video would've done Jesse a world of good. As it is, I don't think his team/ partner did him any favours by putting out the video unedited, in full.

With the released emails, this video actually makes him look worst

[zenster]

No. Because you just look at the word sorry. He’s sorry that people “misinterpreted” what he said wrong. He denies he did anything wrong. That he was misconstrued by ITU and the public, and he felt he could be more careful and accurate. That’s a different apology. Not one that he thinks he was really wrong. In fact, most of the video he laments he was wronged and betrayed. It’s a non-apology apology.

[saveversus]

A few people and I echoed your opinion that the double video format has got to go.

[sablestar]

That apology looked like another one of his stunts. I agree, that apology made it worse.

[daveyjones]

Probably not the first person to suggest this - but I want to see two more videos, one titled “Jesse I’d the worst person in the board game industry” and a second one “Jesse, 8/10”

[ibeholder]

My biggest question is, if you are trying to work with a company and hash out a deal, why would you go ahead and film hours and hours of content first? He'd have to know from previous experiences that the company would want to vet anything they'd eventually pay for, and they certainly wouldn't want videos of him struggling and complaining about the game. He'd know that either 1) He gets a deal and those videos are scrapped anyway, or 2) He can salvage some of it based on their approval, and he'd have to shoot new content for them anyway. It's like a guy cleaning your car windows without asking, and then demanding payment.

I think a person that actually respects their audience would say, "Since you haven't gotten back to me in a while, I went ahead and filmed some content reviewing and playing through the game, and we had a lot of issues with it. I would love if we could have a call with your people to try and figure out if there were things we were missing/getting wrong, but as it stands now, I don't think moving forward with a collaboration on this game would be a good fit for my channel."

Instead, he basically said, "I filmed some negative content while I was waiting for you to get back to me. If you pay me for the time I wasted I'll reshoot it all (and mislead my followers as to the difficulty of the game). Otherwise, I'm posting the negative stuff I already shot."

[kaijuh]

The biggest thing is that he is both contradicting (aka lying) widely available evidence and he is also fake apologising by saying "Im sorry you feel about it that way". The fake apology just came across narcistic and that's why he keeps losing subscribers.

[ScytheNoire]

Jesse is the one who will end up hurting off this. There were already issues with how much he did paid content, but didn't disclose it as paid content, but now his reputation has become even more tainted. Remember that BoardGameCo and Quackalope had the same subscriber numbers at one point, but Jesse is now thousands behind.
Alex and Devon stopped working with Jesse, each for their own reason, and I think both of them are really standup guys. Alex is a business man, and Devon is just a sweetie.
It will be interesting to see if CMON and IV Games backs away, as they have been his biggest supporters.

[smoothrivera]

I appreciate your thoroughness and clarity on this issue! You were honest yet respectful in both videos- that’s why we watch you, bro! Keep it real 🤘🏽

[ShelfClutter]

I know you're a software developer but dang you'd do well as a detective or investigative journalist 🕵‍♂

[JaredB]

A couple of suggestions for content creators especially those getting started.
1. Write a well documented copy writing guidelines that encompasses every aspect of content that viewers are going to see. Will ensure that your tone and message is always consistent and clear.
2. Don’t write your business emails like that. A lot of the content is written in a marketing sales tone. This type of writing tends to not be clear. When writing a business email. The casual marketing tone is fine for introduction and general information.
But when you are talking back and forth like this. Use bullet points and be specific. Always reiterate and reconfirm the points made from both parties in previous conversations.
You’ll notice that there were assumptions in the emails on both sides that were left unattended. The biggest being, have we agreed to work with each other before any further actions will be taken.
Dot points, with exact clear short sentence and list of actions that are constantly reiterated between both parties, is what you need over long verbose paragraphs.

[richie]

"I'm sorry IF in any way YOU.." This is called an "ifpology". It shifts blame away from the person apologising. It shows that really doesn't feel at fault and believes the fault lies in how the other person reacted. You would think someone would at least google how to pretend to give a sincere apology before making a statement like this. Just makes him come across more unlikeable...

[timf]

Just wanted to give you kudos on giving constructive criticism. A lot of things can be taken as attacks on someone but the way you phrased things (as well as just being a genuinely kind person) they came across very logical and i hope mamy people can learn from this. A lot of people mean well with their apologies but they can fall flat even when not meant to.

[dilatedbeholder]

Damn King, I had no idea you had so much responsibilities with your family. How on earth do you find the time to do all this stuff, as well as play games and painting? It's seriously impressive!

[tedharrington]

4 kids?! How do you find the time to do everything?

[coogs]

I don’t see what the big deal is, what’s the fuss all about. Afterall, content creators/influencers can’t just publish all the time, they need financial support. They are entertaining us and we should pay them for it in some way. As a viewer/consumer, I need to make a conscious effort to know what is real, what is of interest and what I don’t like, and everything else has nothing to do with me. Why does everyone have to get so involved...

That's what I thought, UNTIL…someone in that thread posted, “This is the hobby trying to protect itself”, this was referring to how we are all reacting. At that moment I realized that the hobby represents something more than just a bunch of games, it’s an idea, an opportunity, it’s the possibility to escape, for one second away from here, from all the bs. Our types of games aren't just for fun (if they were, we’d all be playing monopoly). They send us to places as far as our imagination can take us, they challenge us and they guide us in some small way, but most importantly, they make us feel really good. I know why I started playing games, it was during the pandemic, and I needed to escape that. But now I understand why I continue to play games, board games in particular. It’s the community, the people behind the scenes, the content creators connecting with me, the publishers, heck, even the delivery person. I feel connected to all these things and it makes me feel like I am part of a community, like I belong somewhere. And the only thing this hobby and community ask of me in return, is to defend it, protect it from those that simply do not understand the joy it gives us. This includes perception, good faith, respect and passion. And I understand why others want to defend Jesse, like as people we don’t want to see anyone go through this and we never want any ill-will towards anyone. If there is one thing I’ve learned being part of this community is that most people/gamers are really good people. But at the same time, if we don’t hold our community members accountable, then this hobby will be minimized, lost, and I don’t know about anyone else, but I know it took me a LONG time to find this hobby and I don’t want to lose it. And what I mean by lost, I mean it will be marginalized, looked at as just a bunch of people with boards, playing in silos with no standards. And we will start losing members because of the drama that this situation has caused. So I want it to be more than just a hobby, I realize that now, I want it to be a community. And if anyone here doesn’t believe in any of what I’m writing, simply because you feel happy the way you play, then wow, let me tell you, there is so much more you are missing out. There is so much more we can get out of this hobby than just some board games.

(This is the most corny thing I have ever written, be gentle 😬)