This Desktop Took A Bizarre Approach To Wayland

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Most Wayland desktops make use of a custom compositor system but that doesn't inherently mean that's the only way to do it and LXQT is actually built around the idea of a generic choice.

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Everytime Brodie mentions Mir, one of your favorite packages becomes Snap only on Ubuntu.

someguy
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fwiw, Windows and MacOS do precisely the same desktop-as-a-file-manager thing! Windows has an unkillable "explorer.exe" process, and if you close every program on your Mac, you'll find it still shows Finder as active in the top menubar.

lritzdorf
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Great to see other desktop environments making progress and adopting Wayland support. Especially considering the fact that many DEs don't have the same manpower and funding like GNOME and KDE do. Looking forward to the day when Xfce finally gets it

SIackware
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i'm actually happy to see this. one of the main reasons i still use x11 is because i use xfce with awesome as the window manager, and i was starting to see cosmic as the only real option for me on wayland, so it's very cool to see that we'll be having some more options to do this kinds of setups under wayland

mariposa_calavera_corazon
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I like this, I want more of this, I want people to bring back batshit crazy ricing on wayland through this, feels like everything has turned into just theming lately

xanthirus
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this model is just continuing the design philosophy of the X version. LXQt doesn't have its own window manager, it is strictly a DE, and usually comes with Openbox bundled by default. i'm glad they're sticking to their guns with this modular approach. now i need to look into which Wayland bspwm-like i prefer. or perhaps, there's also Arcan ...

_iao_
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Xfce is exprcting to make their own compositor based on wlroots, which is why it is possible to run stuff like xfce4-panel under any wlroots based wayland compositor. On my old laptops the combo of labwc and xfce4 panel plus a bunch of other stuff like a screenlocker works really nicely.

max_uaminecraft
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River is moving to having an external window manager process, using a custom wayland protocol for window management. I suspect this will make it much easier for people that just want to write _window managers_ and not compositors.

zakk
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10:06 "Don't ever expect this feature to come to one of the big desktops" - COSMIC showed off exactly this feature at Ubuntu Summit today.

sodiboo
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This is great actually. There are more than enough desktop environments that just want to have everything set up for you. And I am a person that sometimes likes using xfce with another window manager.

Having at least one option for this on Wayland is definitely something the world needed more than just another full desktop. Imo.

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Yooo, I've been waiting for this LXQt update for a few months now, glad to see it finally come to light. Sounds like a really useful concept, will try it out, especially the panel, because I very much dislike messing with the waybar configuration files

jurepustoslemsek
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I wouid point out, on windows the native shell is explorer.exe the file manager.

EwanMarshall
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Isn't LXQt a Qt-based version of LXDE, the "Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment"? If that is true (which I'm not sure about), shouldn't it now be called "LWQt", replacing X11 with Wayland?

Lampe
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Anything may be handled by a file manager since everything in our system is a file.

skidnik
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the loss of flexibility is one of the main annoyances I have with Wayland.
I really hope they succeed with this approach.

miku
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11:07 Now I know why Xfce 4.4 adding desktop icon support in Thunar was so huge! 💡

cameronbosch
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For some reason, the gentoo lxqt-meta 2.0 package already depends on wayland, and there's no way to turn it off, so I had to disable the bulk desktop and pick-and-choose the components I wanted to keep and find replacements for the ones I couldn't, since I'm already settled into my X desktop and will be dead before I stop using it.

jadesprite
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Just like window's file manager is explorer.exe which also happens to be the whole desktop environment on windows

amynagtegaal
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Instead of starting from scratch, they will use what is already there. I like that. Hopefully, that table and those issues will improve with time.

MrAlanCristhian
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I like xfce, it's kinda underrated I feel. It's usually sold as "the DE for bad computers"

TroubledTrooper