The Hyperbolic Geometry of DMT Experiences (@Harvard Science of Psychedelics Club)

At a high-level, this video presents an algorithmic reduction of DMT phenomenology which imports concepts from hyperbolic geometry and dynamic systems theory in order to explain the "weirder than weird" hallucinations one can have on this drug. Andrés describes what different levels of DMT intoxication feel like in light of a model in which experience has both variable geometric curvature and information content. The benefit of this model cashes out in a novel approach to design DMT experiences in order to maximize specific desired benefits.

Presentation outline:

Thermometers of Experience
The Leaf Metaphor
Introduction to Hyperbolic Geometry
DMT Levels
Level 1: Threshold (& Symmetry Hotel)
Level 2: Chrysanthemum
Level 3: Magic Eye (& Crystal Worlds)
Level 4: Waiting Room
Level 5: Breakthrough
Level 6: Amnesia
Energy - Complexity Landscape
Dynamic Systems
Fixed Point
Limit Cycles
Chaos
Noise Driven Structures
Turbulence
Conclusion
Super-Shulgin Academy
Atman Retreat
Wrap-Up


The Harvard Science of Psychedelics Club hosts events on psychedelic research, meditation, neuroscience, students sharing their own experiences, and much more.

Credits:

- Wallpaper group 632 rotating along each symmetry element - Nick Xu

Many thanks to Andrew Zuckerman and Kenneth Shinozuka for helping organize this event. And thanks to David Pearce, Michael Johnson, Romeo Stevens, Quintin Frerichs, the anonymous trippers, and many others for making this work real.

[notpletch]

Very captivating and well formulated. We need to have jamie pull this up.

[coochyskwerts]

I love how Tim Leary got kicked out of Harvard because of psychedelics and now there's a club about them lol.

[martialwoods-gytb]

I overcame my addiction with the help of mushrooms and dmt

[ZaneEckols]

I'm so happy to see that seriously intelligent people are studying and analyzing other realms and psychedelic experiences :)

[juttaclemons]

Don't forget to respect the mushrooms, Golden Teacher basically, they have some very powerful potential. I just did about 7g on 4/12/2023 and it went well actually but barely escaped a bad trip.

[robertidonotsharemyfullnam]

do i actually live in a world where intelligent people experiment with psychedelic substances ? i might be tripping. there might be hope yet for this world!

[christophergunlock]

So this is what happens when harvard geniuses smoke DMT. I'm intrigued.

[AmstradExin]

The sound quality is a DMT Experience of its own.

[JohnChristopher-jqef]

started smoking since my teenage. Got addicted to cocaine. Also suffered severe depression and mental illness. It's just amazing how psilocybin mushrooms treatment actually saved my life. 3 years clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms

[ZachHixsonTutorials]

When I woke up this morning I can say with 100% certainty that watching a video where a guy talks about hyperbolic kale was not on my todo list

[max_mittler]

As Terence McKenna always said, the psychedelics are about boundary breaking. Softening the boundary between our conscious and unconscious minds, between our imagination and reality, between our rational mind fed by sensory input and the invisible underlying structure of nature. And importantly, softening the boundary between ourselves and the rest of the universe. That is where geometry comes into play. We recognize high order organizational structures as clues to a more complex scientific understanding, so the psychedelic aims to show us that there is more to the world than there seems, by showing us that there is geometry and other complex organizational structures within every system, micro and macro throughout the universe.

[painmt]

After ingesting 7grams of psilocybin containing mushrooms, I met with my “older self” and was told that I already have all of the important answers. That I only need to integrate the knowledge and wisdom into EVERYDAY ACTIONS. The rest would sort itself out.

[matt-stam]

6:05 picture of lettuce "you've never seen anything like this before"

This man knows I haven't been eating salad.

[BenAnderson-mghu]

I suffered the borderline disorder for over 23 years. With so much anxiety Not until I came across psilocybin mushrooms treatmentPsilocybin treatment actually saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms 0:08

[lucas.hahn]

Im 12 and have been very fascinated with quantum physics and neuroscience; psychedelics, meditation, philosophy, and the spiritual world fit right in!

[MNJGaGa]

I never liked geometry so much untill I was blessed by shrooms and DMT.

[johnnysandiegoable]

This video combined with the article probably explained more of the dmt trip than all the trip reports I’ve read which is a lot. The levels, with the doses! Now I know I landed squarely in the Magic Eye. The symmetry hotel is a great explanation too. I find it interesting that I had an experience of divine consciousness on level three rather than level six; perhaps it was just a foretaste? Truly informative, this is what psychonauts need to hear

[hieronymusbosch]

to the kid who asked the question about hearing Beethoven through radio static around 57:00, look up MES (Musical Ear Syndrome). It's an affliction in which a person's brain hears chaotic noise and attempts to arrange it based on a library of memorized aural features. I have it and will hear classical music through fans or modular synths from ambient electrical buzzing and sometimes hushed talking if the conditions are right. It occurs more commonly in people with tinnitus.

[雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航]

Impressive that you've mapped out the visual experience at different stages. We need more of this kind of work!

[juliushamilton]

It's wonderful that so many people are able to talk openly about this in a culture of acceptance in a university associated with high social status and professional merit.