Why Moria is the MOST OVERLOOKED Villain in One Piece - Thriller Bark Retrospective

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Today at the Mystery Shack, we return to Thriller Bark for an in-depth look at Moria, his defeat in the New World and how that climaxes in what I still believe to be the greatest fight and final act in all of One Piece.

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Timecodes
00:00 - Introduction
00:31 - Disrupting the Status Quo
03:42 - Moria - A Villian of no Ambition...
08:49 - but an Unstoppable Force
13:45 - Rubber Bounces Back
16:29 - Moria & His Crew
19:57 - Beyond the Climax: Kuma & Sabaody
22:01 - The Florian Triangle & Unanswered Questions
24:55 - Moria... is Luffy
26:23 - Outro

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Usopp vs Perona is still one of my favorite fights in the series and for all the hate the arc gets Thriller Bark was still a ton of fun.

ReleaseZeKrakken
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Thriller Bark as a whole is an underappreciated masterpiece and I'm tired of pretending that it's not.

emperorluffy
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Really cool analysis overall, I just wanted to add a point one can reflect on:

You say Moria could've done the same as Luffy, "bounce" back after losing his crew. But Moria actually DID lose his crew, they all died. Luffy didn't, and it was literally the only thing keeping him in check. Jinbe had to punch reason into him again, cause he was on a mental breakdown. What do you think would've happened if he REALLY lost his crew at Sabaody?

For all we know, Moria said he was like Luffy in his youth, so I think the outcome could've been similar. Everyone you care forever died, it's not easy to bounce back after that, and I don't think even Luffy could pull that off. The self-loathing for not being strong enough to protect them would've killed him, and that's what Moria went through imo.

That's why he's my favorite character. Despite his demonic appearance, he's so damn "human", relatable in how he reacts and develops after being crushed by the world. When you remain alone at your weakest, with no one to motivate you and remind you what you still have like Jinbe did with Luffy, can you really come back to your senses that easily? I think Moria has a perfectly reasonable development, and not a classic shonen approach becoming either super edgy "I don't need anyone" neither "my willpower is so strong I'll get back anyway".

I'm just sad Oda didn't give him enough interactions with his living crewmates. He truly cares for them, as we've seen him going to a damn YONKO TERRITORY, and ALONE at that, just to retrieve Absalom. That's some Luffy-tier bullshit, hell not even he went alone to WCI. He's hotheaded, caring for his friends, and determined in what he does, just like the main character we love.

He just had it worse.

EDIT: I didn't wait till the end, my bad lol.

just_a_folk
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Funny how Moria is just dark timeline Luffy if he gave up after Sabaody

pToeNeigh
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In every arc, Oda brings up small amounts of world building, connects to past and future arcs, and also adds layers to the characters' relationships in the world. Master.

Dilmahkana
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Absolutely 100% correct (and I haven't even watched past the title yet)

ZombieManF
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I really like the implications of nightmare luffy. It subtly tells the audience that luffy had to be at least 100x stronger then he already was to beat Moria. Even with all of that, he didn't even directly beat him since Moria was sowly crushed by a falling building, which is great forshadowing that Luffy had no chance in the new world with his current strenght (and that Moria caused his own downfall)

bluenimbus
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FINALLY an in depth Moria video!

Gomma view it asap, just leaving a comment for now

just_a_folk
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The mirror matches work for me, not every fight is one, but they add to the vibe that these matchups are the done by the fighter best suited to the opponent. Or for them to grow as a fighter.

PoliceTelephoneBox
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One Piece is how I found your channel in the first place. Glad to see you doing more.

zoa-.......
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Sadly, people would've loved Moria if he was some deep voiced guy with a conventionally attractive body that they could apply their power fantasy onto. If Oda gave Moria King's body but kept his backstory, people would've said Thriller Bark was peak.

ArthurEatsCake
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I really like Moria and I always loved this ark and brook

becktrovato
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Thank you so much for this video on Moria. He's my 2nd favorite villain after Blackbeard and I was looking forward to reading TB for years and recently just finished it and it's my likely my 2nd favorite arc after W7/EL.
Moria's so fun, cool, and interesting. You hit upon everything I love about him and his sad self.

UsoTeaMor
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I originally rushed this arc knowing what came next. When I revisited a few Halloween's ago, I found new appreciation for it. The team work take is great! I think that's why I've enjoyed the fights in Stampede and Red, though the former is with other allies than his crew. I wish the Kaido fight had come down to the Straw Hats vs Kaido, another nod to Moira, but the drums of liberation sounded instead. Great video!

jlawrencedavis
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I actually like nightmare luffy. At that point he'd been fully duped by moria into a wild goode chase. He runs into lola and the rest of morias victims. In a rare instance the people luffy is helping hel him in turn. They want to put their hopes into luffy so they offer him 100 shadows to power him up. This quickly gets him back into the fray and levels the playing field and knockout moria for a bit. But what I really like is its still not enough to defeat oars, and its up to all the strawhats to take him down for good

crazykillerchimera
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Thriller bark is actually my favorite Arc.

Jasmintee
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I would like the final battle against Black Beard pirates a crew battle showing how Teach just choose people with power in mind and Luffy picking people he likes and StrawHats teamwork decimating the opponent would be so cool and make sense story wise

mrkus
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You really shed light on MORIA....always amazed how you blow my mind with your every video

JohnWick-uttj
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MY BOY GOT A FULL 27 MINUTE VIDEO LETS

ioel
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There's tons of overlooked villains. Like the clout Hordy Jones was able to use to uproar in 100, 000 fishmen

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