Buffy the Vampire Slayer 7x05 'Selfless' - Scoobies Argument

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[BobbyCalloway]

As someone who hated how Xander got away with so much s***, this scene is oh so satisfying when Buffy lets him have it.

[sheltondaal]

For everyone comparing the Angel and Anya situations and saying that Buffy is a hypocrite, did any of you consider the fact that the Angel situation is probably what influenced Buffy to take action sooner. When Angel turned Buffy was only 17 and still hadn't grasped the full gravity of her role as Slayer. Because Buffy didn't act sooner when Angel turned evil Ms. Calendar died. Why would Buffy make the same mistake now that she's 5 years older and significantly more aware of the damage that can be caused if she doesn't take action?

[thelordofsalem]

And I was wondering if Willow ever found out about Xander lying to Buffy about the message concerning Angel. Now they know.

[stodd]

Buffy stated it pretty plainly for me. Anya chose to become a demon twice. We've all seen (and heard from her personally) the damage she can do. Why would Buffy allow that in her town? She was fully justified in this decision.

[SarahWhitt-lo]

Honestly the most unrealistic thing about this show is the fact that Buffy never once punched Xander in the throat .

[mikethevirgo__]

Love the faith reference “I am the law”. Buffy embraced her inner savage with age. Awesome character development!

[SF-wztz]

Buffy was fully justified. Anya chose to be a demon twice. And she’s pretty powerful by her own admission, and from what we saw she was able to do in s3 by transforming Sunnydale with Cordelia’s wish.

Angel didnt choose becoming a vampire and he didn’t want to lose his soul and start killing again, so in a sense it was different to this situation, but Buffy did what she had to do anyway and killed him. And she knows if she had acted faster in killing him, Ms Calander might have lived. And now that’s she’s seen the horror Anya can inflict, she’s not prepared to wait and allow more people to die

Xander is a hypocrite. He cheered her on when she killed Angel all because he was jealous that Buffy didn’t love him, but now when it’s someone he cares about he acts like they should get a pass and Buffy is being unreasonable

This also could used as a valid reason as to why the Council usually insists the Slayer works alone, with only her Watcher for guidance....less people to cause problems and distract from what needs to be done

[tylerbushong]

“I loved him more than I will EVER love anything in this life.”
Game. Set. Match.

[kimberlyterasaki]

Anya literally has a higher kill count than almost any other demon / Big Bad in the series; remember she was active for a thousand years and partially caused the Russian Revolution. Buffy has every reason not to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Also still can't believe it took them 5 years/seasons to confront Xander for his lying to Buffy in the Season 2 finale.

[City-of-lights]

1:49 when he scoldingly told her “ you have no idea what she’s going through” she should have responded “ I do actually. I was there at the Altar when you dumped her.”

[TrevorCopter]

I think we can really see the Joss Whedon manipulation of things very clearly when we get the lip service of Willow finding out Xander lied and said “Kick his ass!” but Xander facing ZERO consequences for that transgression

[theawkwardone]

In regard to those saying that Buffy is too self righteous with this kindof thinking, take a moment to consider that Xander helped to literally rip her out of her afterlife because they couldn't handle dealing with their supernatural problems on their own so it's pretty shitty that he'd say "You kill mass murdering demons too much. Stop it." and to then try and throw Willow under the bus as if to say that her killing the guy who murdered the love of her life is comparable to Anya going on mass against a group of frat guys over him leaving her like it's the same thing.

[MC]

Everything about this scene was fantastic. The thing I loved so much about Buffy was that the ground work was so well laid for every character that on some base level, I could recognize and appreciate their point of view. I understand where Xander is coming from, but Buffy makes a fair point as well. I know season seven isn't beloved by fans, but it did an excellent job of focusing on the burden and responsibility of the Slayer. Also, a lot of people are harping on Buffy in this comment section, but you have to remember that she stabbed Anya with a sword in the chest knowing it wouldn't kill her. I always thought that was a clever, subtle way for the writers to show that Buffy knew what she was doing and firing a warning shot to let Anya know she wouldn't hesitate to really kill her if it came to that.

[brookeww]

I was so grateful that she finally confronted them about the message Willow never said; because the message was she was working on souling him. Xander is more of a selfish hypocrite then Buffy will ever be.

[joscorpio]

This woman deserves a retroactive Emmy.

[taliagordon]

Buffy took Xander’s hypocrisy for way too long. She really did it for us when she gave this speech. Its the most iconic for me because enough was more than enough and we all know nobody ever truly loved her unconditionally the way Angel DOES (hence why she said that) not even her two “friends” who have always had conditions with loving her. That’s why they were shook because they know she was 100% right. That’s why season 3 is my favorite because mirroring Xander and willow, Angel and Faith awaken the slayer side of Buffy… they helped her harness that power and grow into this leader that Xander and Willow just can’t grasp and honestly never tried. They don’t live in the dark with her. When it comes to the supernatural, She really is the law.

[PODSMPSG]

Buffy is right here. Anya chose to become a Demon. She's killing people who don't deserve to die and she enjoys it. She's a powerful killer who has to be stopped.

[TheAzerjaban]

I love this scene - so much for 'puppy love' 'she forgot about Angel' comments.
I like to think after this scene her and Willow talk & she finally finds out Xander lied.

[jprix]

One of my favorite episodes. So well done and Buffy shows how much she matured

[Tashwampa]

This scene is good. I wanted Buffy to Molly whop him so bad. Like YOU caused this mess. YOU broke her heart.