1981: standing arm locks were swift and SAFE (Neil Adams)

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This video discusses the old standing arm locks in Shiai from the 1980s.

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Chadi
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Thank you very much Chadi, I'm Mauro From Buenos Aires, Argentina.
I do BJJ, and started doing throws thanks to your videos, loved aikido ukemi and clean flowing judo techniques.
I come from Aikido. and believe that martially we are a family (daito ryu aiki jujutsu, judo, brazilian jujitsu)
Salut.

D.MauroBaiardiTwerd
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Some of what makes standing joint locks dangerous is that the direction you need to move to release the pressure is often counterintuitive, so uke genuinely needs more training in ukemi (the broader sense of the word, not just falls and rolls) for the techniques to be performed safely, especially under competitive stress. Wakigatame, in particular, can go from a safe technique to an unsafe one with just minor modification.

As an example: while training wakigatame (an aikido version of the technique, a.k.a. "rokkyō", "hijikime osae") non-competively, at a moderate pace, I've had my own shoulder momentarily separated by this one. My eyes got big, my partner's eyes got big, and my shoulder fortunately slipped back into place without getting caught in a dislocated position. After asking if I was okay, my partner then remarked "let's slow this down some more!" to which I wholeheartedly agreed.

jamesfrankiewicz
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Shinya Aoki (Kosen Judo and BJJ) used a standing lock in an MMA match years ago.

combatsportsarchive
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Your videos are tremendously inspiring. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say and show.

clacicle
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Chadi, I love your videos. As a karateka I can tell you that much of the lost grappling of Okinawan Karate consists of standing arm/shoulder locks and destructions. See the stacked hand positions in Karate. We use a lot of Tuite/Chin Na in the standing positions seen in kata. Keep up the good work!

travisthompson
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You are making an excellent argument for a judoka to study at least the basics of aikido!

arnoldcohen
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Well remembered! Standing armlocks is another important part of Judo that was unfairly severed, and which needs to come back. "Let's make Judo great again"

fernandohsantos
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I won’t my last tournament with a standing armlock using the lapel. It was an immediate tap. My opponent didn’t even know how to defend it

frankiegodinez
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Waki gatame is probably the most dangerous of the standing locks. Many people spun violently into it or fell to the ground (as you've shown), which is where the injuries happen. Perhaps just disallow standing waki gatame and bring back standing ude gatame and ude garame, which are great locks that you can manage without injuring the opponent. Also, I'd like to see kote gaeshi allowed too.

haffoc
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Hey Chadi, first of all I appreciate all of your content and the work you put so nicely. I see your book is on Amazon, because of the restrictions of my country I cannot buy it, but if it were to publish on iPhone books app on IOS, I'd certainly buy it from there. As I'd love to both support and read your book.
Sincerely, yours.

Biggocat
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excellent! I'm going to try some of these armlocks in training this week. Thank you, master! Oss!!!

fernandocoan
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The martial art of Judo vs the "sport". 🤙

kananisha
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one of my senseis who was really old school would teach seoi nage with making the muscle a bit lower on the upper arm (rather than in the armpit) to have an armlock as another option

StuartJuggernaut
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I me coming from another martial art, and in comparison I'm quite beginner in judo. When I practice Judo like todays rules, it is hard to fight with more advanced people for me. But sometimes, I have ideas my friends don't have because they are used to todays rules, not me. And last week, I made surprise with one of my friends dojo attempting a stand up arm lock ! 😅

martialartnerd
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We used to practice them. They were very hard to pull off in randori.

jasonrose
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Neil was a breast and I love his commentary! I really like the idea of standing submission but I can see they could go wrong especially in competition. Great work Chadi

caelanhenry
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Chadi, I have a question. I know that Luta Livre Esportiva is known for its groundfighting features like BJJ but does Luta Livre Esportiva have throws and takedowns like the ones seen in Freestyle Wrestling and Folkstyle Wrestling since Luta Livre Esportiva itself is rooted in Catch Wrestling in which both Freestyle and Folkstyle also descend from this style as well?

kaisersadd
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4:26 He extended his arm to block the fall. It was absurdly dangerous and luckily Adams didn't throw his weight on top of him, otherwise it would have been another case of a broken arm. It is not possible to praise this type of senselessness and irresponsibility.

ricardokerscher
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Are there any styles or lineages of judo that still dedicates time to standing armlocks?

Every time my bjj class had a judo instructor visit and teach the entire portion of standing instruction and drills were about proper gi grips and footwork for throws.

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