NA M+ Drama w/ Dorki & Growl

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Hey guys, bit of a different type of video today... This video is like 90% unserious so please dont take it insanely bad - the M+ team core of "ambition" which consists of Ellesmere, Nerftank, Jpctheman_ & Asuna had an on stream argument mid key the other day which effectively lead to their team disbanding. In this video I'll be going through that entire sequence of events as I give my opinion on it, with the help of growl & Dorki - hope you enjoy!

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Introduction: 0:00​​
The Incident: 1:21
Full Vod Breakdown: 4:34
Reporter "Growl" Joins the Call: 20:32
Reporter "Dorki" Joins the Call: 39:01
Nerf's Response: 50:25
Final Thoughts: 1:10:11
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[Kmaitland]

The 30 year old comment is James saying "you are old enough to know better".

You guys took it as "you are too old"

[nicklasjensen]

It is crazy Growl making the defense that Nerf saying "Yo, don't overlap my stuns" and "I hate playing with this healer" or asking "which global did you just press" is not barking but JPC and Ellesmere saying "You didn't call it" is barking. Nerf called them out for their mistake, they called him out on his, and then he turned into a 5 year old with a tantrum. Nerf was the toxic one in this interaction - not the rest of the people. Even if Nerf got tilted from being called out on being non-verbal in an easy key, it is wild to just completely ignore them the rest of the key and after. It was clear JPC was fed up with Nerf being a baby.

[dejackarse]

Was the "30 Years old" comment meant to come across as calling him old? I interpreted it more as "You're an adult, don't just mute, be mature about it"

[KareiTV]

I've been watching Ellesmere's stream on and off for some time now and whenever this sort of situation happens he has to take the brunt of the crap, the amount of shit he got thrown in his direction is beyond me

[WhiteSupreme]

I don't think telling someone to act their age is out of line when they are acting like a little child.

[babycrow]

the age comment from James definitely came from the context of "you should act more mature about this" rather than plainly calling him old

[PatrickQT]

Big disagree with Growl here. I watch Ellesmere's stream on a regular basis and nerf is usually a giant dick and elles always rolls with the punches and tries to stay positive but honestly nerf is so toxic that Im surprised it did even last that long.

[hehexd]

cant wrap my head around thinking the "ur 30" comment is super toxic. hes just saying hes a grown man with kids acting like a child.

[Homievegetable]

Let's be real we've all had a m+ gigga tilt for absolutely no reason

[Crobian]

The funniest part of this entire situation for me is that nothing even happened when they overlapped CCs lol. Didn't cause a death, wipe, deplete or anything and Nerf had a breakdown over it kek

[wildstrike]

My take after watching this hour long video on people I don't even know. Some tank named Nerf took an L and Growl took a bigger L.

[deathbob]

as a healer i can say that when some one says "im dead" i do infact pull out everything in the book at them to be like but did you die? it is some sort of healing flex

[outkripper]

Ellesmere seems like the glue holding this together, dude is a beast

[dewcodered]

Growl hitting that copium extra hard lol.

[Seigerootz]

WoW players being grown ass adults challenge impossible

[bluey]

It doesn't matter what happened if Nerf was right or wrong. The fact is he was completely immature in his response.

[Imabirdhaww]

Yeah Growl is straight gaslighting here.

Nothing that occurred deserved the offending action (going mic off headphones out). If Nerf was having such a tough time with the barking then he needs to be adult about it, either leave the team or share the growing frustration. Also, the fact that Growl feels he needs to come on and "explain" doesn't show loyalty, it shows this behavior is standard for this Nerf dude.

[stewartbell]

I love Growl, but he was trying way to hard to deflect the blame to "chat being ignorant." It doesn't take being a professional M+ player to see the issues that were going on here.

[clandestin]

I'm confused that JPCs comment about nerf being in is 30s is taken so harshly. I am also in my late 30s, but I just took it as JPC calling out that he should act his age and maybe be more mature about this rather than calling him ancient or something.

[SarmonOflynn]

What I have noticed from watching a LOT of ellesmere keys; Nerf is great to he around when everyone is locked in, but he also loves going in on people for little mistakes, and loves to poke at people, but cannot take it at all.