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[rogerj]

I love the energy and excitement that Kramer has.

[adriansimpson]

You should look into a Design of Experiment (DOE) concepts. I am a scientist that often deals with problems like this that have many variables that cannot be isolated. DOE can allow you to design and analyze the relationships between variables like brace height and draw weight especially when they are nonlinear. Your dataset is already tailored for it so it might be really helpful.

[Scario]

The shorter distance, the faster the bow is. I saw this video on a channel of a bow maker.
He was making traditional Native American bows and he made a test using the same arrow each time he was shooting a Sioux Bow (quite similar to european long bows) and then sawed of the limbs of this exact same bow, turning it into a short bow (similar to Comanche style), used the same arrow and realized that the arrow was going faster at the same draw length.

But of course the amount of stress on a short bow is bigger than it is on a longbow, the longbow gives you the possibility to have longer draw length.

I love the physics behind bows, that's so cool XD

[richardhartzog]

Thanks for this and just want you to know between you and clay Hayes i was able to accomplish building my first self bow it's a short 44in ntn and draws 60lbs at 22in now i am getting lots of staves and really enjoy my new hobby thanks for helping me get started in this

[azcoueshntr]

Fred Bear found that for him the 60” Kodiak recurve was the best blend. Howard Hill was a proponent of the 68” bamboo core longbow. After experimenting for 5 decades I like shooting a 52” Kodiak magnum, weird choice. I made my own for a decade, now I just enjoy shooting. Good luck, should be fun.

[yourhighness]

Man, I just love your videos! Thank you so much for putting so much energy into them! Greetings and love from Germany

[philozoraptor]

Take a look at how Turkish flight bows are made, as far as I know those are the fastest standard bows - can go up to 270-300 fps (so excluding compounds).

Love this video. I’ve shot everything from Korean bows, Hungarian bows, trad long bows and recurves and the speeds are always surprising me. I do think the limb wood/ material used is a HUGE factor. I can’t wait for your results. Awesome!

[bradpugh]

Kramer. Love the video. It’s complicated. But now clear as mud. Now I know why I like archery so much… I think.

[shinyribs]

You got me to make a bow and I just placed an order for a couple items. Just letting you know that all your work on this channel is much appreciated and not in vain. Best wishes to you, man ✌️

[paullewis]

Loved it! So, it is a balancing act for sure. Just a thought on the Bear K4, patent design. In that, my take was that they were going for the power stroke to still have a lot of gas toward the point where the arrow leaves the string. But that design is a PIA to string, had a lot of hand shock too. Plus, those issues may have been a challenge for the early and developing archery public. On top of design elements, they were developing glass; woven to linear strand. Then to working recurve. Leading edge stuff. Looks like you have a great mentor, excellent ideas and a burning desire to figure it out. Now you have the best materials to date along with a rich design history to draw from. I am really looking forward to the results!

[jonathanbennison]

12:46

Great video. Kramer.

I would add... I think that one benefit to understanding how the bow design, affects its Speed... Can be beneficial,
Because then instead of increasing Poundage in pursuit of increased speed, but not necessarily achieving it efficiently...
Despite paying the cost for more mass and/or more poundage...

It might be possible to start with a 40 pound bow design... And instead of adjusting to a 50 pound design for some increase in speed...

Discovering how much speed can be gained with a more efficient design, might allow us to increase or retain arrow speed, with Lower Poundage.

Then we might be able to. Achieve similar or faster Arrow Speed, with a lighter draw weight.
Which is very intriguing.

[ZelosDomingo]

Thanks for delving into this topic more! I've always wondered about this (mainly from a fantasy roleplaying perspective, including things like unusual materials or bows made for superhumanly strong people, ) and always found there to be a surprising lack of information about it, or even contradictory information. I guess it's one of those things that maybe isn't as well understood as one might think.

[PastorBethanyChapel]

Let's do it! I'm in. Loving the journey. Num 6:24-26

[antonice]

Instructions unclear. I shoot bows with an arrow now.

[JeffreyStedfast]

WOW! This is exactly the kind of information I've been curious about and just asked you about a few days ago on another of your videos. I guess I should have watched the videos of yours that I hadn't seen yet first! haha. Great stuff! Thank you!

[gabrielsalgado]

Are you ever to make more bow to by or restock the bare bones. I’ve wanted one of your recurve bow for so long

[fjongis]

I have an idea for a bow design where the string is slightly off-set to the side, so that the string can move past the bowhandle and keep pushing the arrow until the bow has reached it’s original «un-braced» very reflexed shape.

[Cjw]

Hey I have have been compound bow hunting for a little while and I was just wondering what is a good budget recurve bow good for deer hunting

[bernatbabcsan]

Beautifully put, and very professional ! Love from Hungary 😀❤️