Hyperian - Illuminist Conflict | My Opinion

It’s the death of an era. And it feels horrible to put yourself out there just for someone to misrepresent you and not serve you anymore.

P.S. (I look like crap in this video but I just needed to find time in my busy schedule to post my opinion)

The emotional manipulation that I’ve seen on the part of Hyperianism is disgusting.

Trying to play on peoples connection to false identities such as sexuality and gender to control their ideas and opinions to preserve your own income is not noble.

Instead that same power should have been used to help them see through their emotional triggers to receive the AC/PI’s message. We should be helping “Hyperians” see through narrow, and shallow , false identities and unworthy alliances. Not using their emotionally vulnerable psyches to put them against a message purely out of emotional response and not a rational one.

That’s the act of a power vampire. Sucking up the power of masses emotionally manipulated to influence their minds and choices. This makes choices not there own but of the individual that sucked their power.

I don’t agree with the statement of Hyperianism that says “Look at who these people are bigots” without also trying encourage the individual to peer deeper past their emotions to clearly understand the message.

[amqblackrose]

I too have decided to step away from the movement and begin to work on my own personal goals which I have been distracted from. I have realized that I was loosing my identity in Hyperianism, and seek to further actualize myself.
I am The Dialectical Black Rose and will destroy parts of myself to become the best version of myself possible. I cannot do that if I’m tried up in fighting a battle which is not mine to fight.
I want to stay true to myself and the mission to create a better world.
I have nothing against Morgue and will forever be thankful for his teachings and for leading me to the AC/PI material. But it’s now time to wean myself from the titty and go out into the world on my own!

[paulborchers]

Hey brother I love your opinions I loved our talks and n flagstaff 😊

[laurencoll]

Seriously I can’t thank you enough for speaking up on this because these points you touched on were exactly what I was thinking about and I really appreciate it ! I couldn’t agree more . I do see the AC/PI’s point I get their stance I get their anger and I get the use of the statement they made to make a point . I also do give credit to Morgue for building the following and I do enjoy some of the content shared . I think I only attended like one drunk Bible reading as I never liked those the book readings were cool and I really appreciate the knowledge I took from them and without Morgue I wouldn’t have had a clue about illuminist ideas either or any higher education for that matter . I was a total 1000% ignavi and the movement definitely made me completely change my life . Also I appreciate the points made on veganism and have the same thoughts . Since going vegan which for more me if I’m being honest was always for ethical reasons but as I progressed on my journey I learned a lot about the animal agriculture industry how completely fucked up it is and how veganism can also be beneficial for health. I thought the same thing with regards to The AC’s statement that maybe the movement got carried away and maybe they could work to revise it because that’s what had me torn too bc the movement was very beneficial for me and did also lead towards higher knowledge. I think if Morgue had his own channel that addressed philosophical ideas, esoterica, and psychology etc I would 1000% support it as any other YouTube subscriber that I value the information I received from it if that makes sense . I’m regards to it being illuminist ideas and it becoming twisted than yeah I do see their stance : I haven’t spoken up much about it because I have had inner conflict so I appreciate you speaking on this my friend! Glad to see you are doing well!

[anuradhahazarika]

I see why you took your time 🥺, It must have been hard to come forward. I can respect your decision though I'm still in the process of thinking through what you said. Wish you the best of luck, I'm interested to see how you develop, Gl 🤗.

[loree]

I think I made a comment on here and for a couple days I have been stewing. I decided to look into it further. Today I renounced Hyperianism. Previously I was following the Rosecrucians. That's what drew me in and was waiting to discuss Mike Hockney. You guys are right there was not a lot of debate or exterior input by guests. I also recall him saying that at some point after the pandemic we would start to have hyperian meetings and have hyperian subgroups in each state or county. It was never discussed again. I'm kinda on a rampage and looking at all this content exposing Corey.

[WforWrath]

this is an absolute NUKE. this is fucking good

[GuacamoleAndOJ]

Well said! I share many of the same sentiments, especially about the non violence part and identity politics. I think the original purpose of Hyperianism was a fantastic idea, but today it’s so soft and passive that it can’t even defend itself, let alone “create a new world.” Nietzsche would be sickened by it

[randletaylor]

I thought that was an eloquent as well as articulate presentation and I felt you expressed your position of this conflict well. You presented you arguments without meanness or venom in your tone while pointing out the miscontributed attributes that did not exist in the AC's books but were framed as though they did. Thank you.

[GalacticKnowledgeGuidance]

Good to see others are seeing it now. I started noticing this about 3 years ago and did my take in a few videos as well. I did learn and grow from the ideologies and philosophy of the movement and it helped me grow more and give my energy to the work I do now and my overall message. I think all should have that as well, not with this movement but all of them. Everyone deserves to be seen, heard and allowed to create and express themselves as they wish. All have a right to also earn revenue as well but of course as long as others are not heart, lied to or cheated in the process. So what is the future of the movement then? We shall see...

[Biohazard]

Thank you! I appreciate this video opening my eyes. I had no idea what was going on. Is there a link to Illuminism and authors. I would love to learn more. Thank you, much appreciated!

[yveadams]

I've never seen you shine so bright. Love and miss you. Give Xochitl my love. 🌟

[exploringtheholos]

I agree with your approach 😌.
All I've ever asked from the AC is a replacement to Morgue.
People are way too lazy to read books, YouTube is the only way to get the message out.

[breethekiwi]

I am really enjoying your videos. You make really awesome points. I have also been vegan for about 8 years, but I do find the whole vegan movement very problematic.

[evolveyourself]

Morgue has some interesting things to say but he needs to stop begging for money and he needs to stop waving that ridiculous "non-binary" flag. We don't need to wave a flag that labels ourselves. Who the hell cares. Stop with that stupidity. I merely say, "I'm on the monk path." It says so much, but nothing at all. We're supposed to be independent and we're not supposed to trap ourselves with someone, and we shouldn't be breeders, so when I merely say, "I'm on the monk path..." It's everything, but nothing, and people leave me alone. No labels, nothing, but everything: "I'm on the monk path." Done.

[gregschramm]

Where do I find this information you talk about.

[WoziduranJahemter]

Nice independent thinking and analyze mate! You can teach in short vines, you have that gift of good brief resumes.

[Jackj-xd]

I had the same thoughts about hyperians stance on violence regarding any revolution but assumed it was just a disclaimer. With a goal of bringing down the OWO I thought least some level of violence would be necessary and was implied by this goal alone. Especially with the content on light working?

[pberPSR]

can someone tell me who the person "NK" is that the AC site refers to in their latest post? thank you.

[Teckno]

Curious. What are the major points of contention, if you don’t mind. I think I came in at the end of this.

[Hiraeth]

I don't think anyone really needs to be part of a group in order to self-actualize, but sometimes they can be a good catalyst for encouragement and growth, especially among those who work better with social support.