Can You Possibly Come Up With Proof For God Only Using Reason? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

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[Apostolnixx]

Buddy became an "atheist" to annoy his parents, not because of critical thinking and reason.

[Montaq_]

I'm still not over this guy claiming the majority of the Earth is covered in grass. Hard to take a guy seriously who forgets that oceans are a thing.

[perks]

Presuppositionalists always have to be arrogant or else they wouldn't be presuppositionalists

[canderson]

You can't prove god with reason because there's no reason to believe in god in the first place.

[christianblevins]

You can always tell a presup because they have the most smug attitude out of all theists maybe flat earthers beat them maybe

[rickskeptical]

Presuppositionalist in a nut shell:
1. Let us assume I am right
2. Therefore I must be right
Dont you see the logic? It is plain to me. Checkmate you unbeliever!

[ARoll]

8 year old you was a better thinker than you were the day of this call, Larry 😂😂

[smochygrice]

Thank God for atheism 🙏

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[Delilah-HeyThere]

Stuff exists. Mic drop. Show promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

[landsgevaer]

1:28 "It strictly a little logic proof" 😂
It may be little indeed.

[uncleanunicorn]

certainly, we don't get our morals from the god of the bible..

[jasonharris]

The presuppsitional argument seems to have an an anthropocentric, or teleological world view that no atheist has to accept. That is, the presuppositioalist says that God grounds all logical laws and laws of thought. In order to formulate atheist arguments, you need to use the logical tools that are underwritten by God, or instantiated in God. Therefore, atheists implicitly affirm God when formulating logical arguments. However, we can easily imagine a universe where logical, thinking, self-reflective creatures do not exist. Logical, thinking, self-reflective creatures are not necessary.
If we can imagine a universe without such creatures, then we can say that having such creatures in any universe is not necessary for any universe to come about.
However, presuppositionalists seem to believe that logical, thinking, self-relective entities are an essential/necessary part of the universe, a thing towards which the universe is striving. Such entities are held to be necessary in order to explicitly express the underlying logic of the universe, and, by extension to express an aspect of God itself. Their presuppositionalist argument therefore seems to presuppose that logical, thinking, self-reflective entities are necessary in EVERY possible universe. If we reject this hidden premise then we reject presuppositionalism.

[gatorboymike]

"Okay, so there's shit. And shit is a way. You still with me? Great. Now, shit is the way that shit is, and shit is not a way other than the way that shit is. Shit could conceivably have been a way other than the way that shit is, and yet, shit is NOT a way other than the way that shit is; shit is, in fact, the way that shit is. The ONLY POSSIBLE WAY that this could be so is if there is a magical
- fucking genius

[Seticzec]

Title: definitely no, there's not evidence for any god. 🙂

[TheToscanaMan]

I stopped believing at 8 years old and then lived my life as an agnostic or an atheist until through my incredible powers of observation I can now prove there is a god with reason: Step 1 stuff is here.

[chuckm]

No.
Of course not.
Which says zero about whether or not such a concept is true.

[skindred]

Presupps...always pathetic.
Its just ..look at the trees argument but it's been hit with a thesaurus

[SonnyPaints]

They didn't use logic to get into it, so there is no chance they will use logic to get out of it.

[Seticzec]

I already did that, why do you ignore my answer, troll?

[amtlpaul]

P1: There are things
P2: You cant demonstrate that things got here for any other reason than 'God did it'
C: God did it

That's a fallacious argument from ignorance