How Menswear is Changing

Hi, I hope you've been well, thanks for reading the description, of all people I appreciate that you right there, right now are reading this. Thank you. I am not sure about where I will go with the look of my videos, I think I'm going to scrap the green screen set up I had just because I would have multiple issues with it which would make me not enjoy making videos so I'll have to do a rejumbling of sorts. But hey, at least you're here, reading the description. Thanks again.
Maybe we can do this again next week? No pressure of course. I'll be leaving you now. Goodbye.

[coolman]

I’m a man and I wanna dress more interesting ways without putting on a skirt or something. It feels boring, so I’m excited for men’s wear to take it up a notch. I definitely can shop in the women’s section and find some cool stuff though. So a little is on me but I wish men’s had the same options and variety as women’s . So in time I hope things change

[pixidath]

as a girl into fashion (moreso women’s because i identify with it more) i adore your channel although I may not be the target audience. it’s nice to see recurring themes in men’s wear and taking bits and pieces of them. I’ve been using the kibbe body type and color season theory to define the most “flattering” way for me to dress, and playing around with it. that tends to be how female fashion channels judge how well a woman’s outfit is styled, and for men it’s a completely different ball field to me.

I usually love taking from more “masculine” silhouettes like large leather jackets contrasted with mini dresses or outfits “in my lines, ” it gives a nice contrasting and edgy look. i also don’t feel like i’m trying too hard to appear feminine or masculine in that manner, bc it feels as if it looks offputting if i try 100% one or the other seeing as I also have a masculine face. more like i’m wearing a costume and it’s not authentic to me.

[kinggeedra]

Heyyyy fashionlover4 ur my favorite fashion

[silber]

I think there’s a place for everything in fashion, but i personally don’t like this trend of menswear trying so hard to be androgynous, as i don’t feel like it’s authentic at all

If you happen to be a man who likes womenswear thats cool and vice versa

But just putting "feminine" colors, silhouettes, and skirts on guys feels kinda cheap to me (like trying to cash in on current gender discussion)

I lean towards the idea of androgyny in fashion being absolutely neutral, almost separate to traditional mens/womenswear instead of trying to homogenize both

In my opinion menswear should start to explore masculinity in away that is more natural, take the silhouette if some traditional menswear from other cultures for example:

Men wear skirt like garments in so many cultures, which could be seen by western society as feminine, but that’s the thing, it’s not! Showing skin is something many masculine cultures do, just not the same way women do, why not explore those avenues (which also improves true inclusion?)

Im not saying that we shouldn’t experiment with mixing things up, but if you would actually explore menswear in history, you would find how broad the menswear spectrum goes!

I feel like there’s a reason why men wear different clothes to women and vice versa, some silhouettes are just more flattering for certain bodytypes

But the skirt of a man and the skirt of a woman are different (if you want to choose the other that’s absolutely fine, but don’t erase the "male skirt" just to make fashion more androgynous)

A lot of menswear history and culture would be lost, if the industry decides to just inject womenswear into menswear

Have a nice day everyone 👍🏼

[hankhillsnrrwurethra]

My wife chuckles at how I dress too young for my age which I suppose I do. I'm using pink as a legit color... for me that's a change. The older I get the more I abandon a uniform and just dress what I feel.

[buttercup]

like you mentioned, many young men have turned to influencers like andrew tate almost as a beacon of safety from having to question whether their identity as a male is *really* the centerpiece of who they are as a person. at the same time, young men interested in fashion wish to explore their masculinity and male identity while still identifying as male. i hope that through the changes in the idea of masculinity, more men can see their identity as something freeing rather than restrictive. most men have been raised with a singular idea of what it means to be a man and are only now being introduced to the idea that being a man can be interpreted in many different ways. I will be interested to see what generation will be raised with this more fluid version of masculinity, and what will they take from that to interpret in their clothing.

[DrewJoiner]

I remember you and I talking about this on the pod! Love to see you flush out your thoughts on this.👏

[luckycat]

all the fashion creators droppin this month damn

[danolongo]

once again, another fashionlover4 banger

[apocryphal]

I think I'm always underwhelmed by these conversations since, in the western world, women's fashion has been influenced by menswear for so long that a lot of so called 'androgyny' looks like basic, normal clothing (a tee, pants) on someone who looks "more androgynous." Skirts are just the last hold out of that, so it seems like it should have caught on. I think the real question is whether or not people (but particularly men) will ever be open to dressing in a way that's more vulnerable to interpretation to the viewer (i.e. ornate/figure flattering) than for just utility. The items that combines both (like those shorts with a ruffle) seem like it should have easily caught on, but considering a lot of the major shifts in men's fashion have been based around utility (streetwear, gorpcore, techwear) while the ones in women's have been based on aesthetics (dark academeia, cottagecore, barbiecore, ) I don't think we're headed in that direction yet. Any further changes won't be coming from runways, since the designers have just done their jobs in showing us the possibilities and capitalizing on what's marketable, and further progress requires we buy into those ideas; it feels like it's not a new conversation since we're just now considering things brought up decades ago. A new way of gender fluid or androgynous dressing is a reach when we're just now humoring the societal shifts that even make it a possibility.

[odinxrk]

The problem with for example the yellowish crop top look from Acne is that that is not androgynous, putting men in womens pieces is not androgynous. It's about exploring what you can do with clothing without taking away from the persons "manliness" so to speak, how much skin can you show without it being too feminine. I don't like the idea of putting a man in a skirt and being like oh wow androgyny how great. And its not because the skirt was traditionally a womenswear piece. You have to somewhat navigate around what is considered manly and feminine while pushing the boundaries ever so slightly more and more. Not just put men into skirts. To me personally it just looks odd and it really does not do a good job in bringing androgyny to the straight man.

[paddyolten]

For brands just allowing men to wear women's clothes these days is just LAZY! We need the creative design to adapt to gender fluidity

[bromulrich]

god you've got so many good takes and analysis its crazy.

[Bball]

Happy to see you around again, great video and topic as well. I love the point you make of the androgenous look being a gap too big from menswear; I'm excited to what this is aiming for, it feels so refreshing.

I'll try to start thinking of ways to implement this in my own wardrobe, thanks for your commentary!

[E.AHendrix]

Bro please be consistent every week drops 🙏🏽😂

[arno]

Really love the way you analyze and criticize fashion! I‘m thrilled for the upcoming videos:)

[Mkmka]

As a straight toxically masculine man, i love crop tops, they look better on us anyway.

[davidpachecogarcia]

It would be interesting to interview people who don’t conform to typical expressions of gender and what they seek out of their clothing. Get to know their philosophy or how they work through putting an outfit together.

[brandonwilliams]

I keep watching videos about high fashion. And I always leave the video with the opinion that it all looks terrible, regardless of whatever meaning might or might not be behind it. If it looks bad it looks bad, there is no amount of explanation that will change that.

[eridanuskelpi]

Really interesting takes, love the presentation!

I don't think the abrupt ending does you a favor. I and probably many other people like to go back and review main aspects and cool fashions after finishing watching.
By ending so abruptly, Youtube spits out the next video or ad, which makes reviewing and rewinding uncomfortable.
Maybe you could look into creating an end card with own recommendations for ~10secs?