Why is Matthew 18:11 omitted from many modern Bible translations?

[theirmom]

I think it’s great that you seem to be introducing yourself and stating your credentials and purpose at the beginning of your videos. We don’t all know you yet.

[nedsantos]

Love this.
The last statement is what I've always believed:
Read the Bible to learn instead of reading it to defend dogmas.

[devinsmith]

KJV Christians don't know the textual history of the NT books, imagine my shock.

[Ejaezy]

Don't some bibles put a footnote at the end of the page that says the verse is missing because it isn't in the earliest manuscripts?

[jeffmacdonald]

I was amused by "according to every Bible before 1881" over a list starting in 1382.
Apparently the Bible was written later than I thought.

[blackeyedturtle]

Codex W (late fourth or early fifth century) is an early manuscript which contains the verse, as do Codex D (fifth century), Codex N and Σ (both sixth century), Codex E (eighth century), and Codex F, H, K, and Δ (all ninth century). Uncial 078 (sixth century) is damaged where this verse would be, but based on the available space and the size of the letters, it is believed that this manuscript probably once contained the verse as well. The verse is also present in the majority of medieval Greek manuscripts. The majority of Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts contain the verse, including some that date back to the fourth and fifth centuries. The fifth-century Syriac Curetonian Gospels affirm the reading, as do the later Syriac Peshitta manuscripts. It is also found in the Armenian and Georgian texts. So, this verse certainly existed in some copies in the fourth century (at least in Latin and possibly in Greek). It is omitted by those who consider Vaticanus & Sinaiticus as reliable and use Westcott & Hort underlying Greek Text as their source. It is present in virtually all the least corrupted manuscripts containing the least corrections. It would be fair to say if it is present your Bible did use the most accurate, but not the most ancient manuscripts.

[sunshowerpainting]

Who's to say that Jesus was even speaking about himself?

[ronjones]

I don't know that defend dogma is fair here. I would be willing to bet ignorance has more to do with it.

[gklgspy]

Doesn't seem like learning is a priority for the majority of apologists, or christians in general. Seems dogma is. Were he aware, christians would make Jeshua of Nazareth weep.

[loliH]

All my, RV1960-inspired, Bibles have it. 🤷‍♂️

[Nudnik]

Mathew 17:21 removed
1John 5:7-8, 7:53:811,Mark 16:9-20 added..
There are hundreds of variant versions of the Christian bibles none used match the original koine Greek new testament or Hebrew Scripture sources..
Absurd theology

[sfarhan]

No disrespect brother thins mean some one did change the scripture n if u find one mistake doesn’t mean there is only one there r many more

[Mark]

All the gospels were copied from each other anyway.

[JP-JustSayin]

But ... but ... what will become of those poor defenseless dogmas?
🙃

[TheRationalCarpenter]

Two important points:

Just because something was added later doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. If the reason for admitting a verse is because your earliest text does not include the verse then you are doing some funky editting. Dogma: "earlier is better because... I believe in a perfect original"? That sauce is weak.


The second is that there is no reading without dogma. If there is no frame of reference from which you are engaging the text, then there is no possible meaning to be gathered out of the text. Trying to split learning and dogma is silly.

[jamesholland]

Yeah. He is a I’m holier than you guy.

[residue-erdooo]

*THOUSANDS of changes have taken place in every bible on Earth! Read Amos **8:11**, then type in (proof of bible change residue junkie) AND BRACE YOURSELF FOR THE SHOCK OF YOUR LIFE!!!*

[mickeydecurious]

Who was alive in the time of Jesus? No one breathing today, so why do you believe in ancient book that theoretically has nothing to do with today's events, or life today... Can't use the excuse you're learning from other people's experiences, because that's not how human beings learn, the experiences that teachers have to be personal lessons. IDK Christianity reminds me of a death cult that practices cannibalism vampirism and joyfully rejoice at the torturous murder of others; look at the history and then look at the current events🤷

[SappySadLoveShit]

I saw a video of a rabbi who said the Torah says that jews should not have their own state since the destruction of the temples, can you make a cider regarding its validity?