CPUs in 2024: I Babble About Them for 15 Minutes

CPUs are my obsession. My love. My precious. Let me talk about lots of things about them that I normally only share with Fluffykins or my pillow.
This video was made on a N100 mini PC as a personal challenge

0:00 - Boring VS Interesting
1:01 - $100 PC
2:50 - The CPU lineup
3:27 - $100 CPU
3:50 - $135 CPU - All you need
4:55 - Productivity
6:00 - A Beautiful, Crowded Budget Market
7:17 - AMD Since Ryzen
9:58 - Intel Since Ryzen
11:17 - The Future

[Brandn]

This man could make a video about fertilizer price to performance in 2024 and I'd watch for 30 minutes.

Edit: I’m glad we’re all in agreement

[four...]

I imagine that the mini pc has some sort of magical curse that makes it slightly unoptimal for everything from 8-bit snake to fully raytraced 8k gaming

[ty]

Just wanted to say that I have become increasingly appreciative of your journalistic selection and demonstration of the "Budget" range of technology as I have gotten older. Especially now that I have to pay for things like rent. While so much of tech journalism seems to be focused on the next, latest and greatest its important to highlight the mid range of what most people will ever need or use. Your demonstrations like the video editing on the $100 PC I think are great at proving why these lower end systems are important.

[CopperHvH]

What you were experiencing on the N100 was the fact that CPU utilization can go above 100%, tools like hwinfo show it correctly, while taskmanager does not.

[mitsuhh]

CPUs have improved so much in such a small amount of relative time. From R7 2700X, to R9 5950x, to i7 12700K, to R7 7800x3D, there was always a noticeable improvement in game perf. And from 2700X to 5950x was night and day in multithreading heavy tasks.

In all that time though, I only ever upgraded the gfx card once. Went from GTX 1080 Ti 11gb to an RTX 4080s 16gb just last month.

[mememe]

This PC is two times cheaper than 8 gigs of ram in a Macbook. Pretty impressive tbh.

[SekritJay]

Entire video is a Userbenchmark burn and I love it

[nicholas]

11:14 "And right now is a h...very exciting time for me"

Could've sworn there was a hellaæøœ coming

[BRUXXUS]

Your passion and enthusiasm for CPUs in the current market is so endearing.

[beetheimmortal]

I'm really a fan of these CPU and GPU videos Philip makes, because he does them from a normal consumer's perspective, instead of just wanking on the latest and greatest, most expensive things like many dedicated tech channels. Actually, one of these videos was the reason I switched to AMD in 2018 and I'm really happy with that choice still.

[zebzebzebzebzeb]

Something you didn't mention that is becoming increasingly important in MT workloads is figuring out where the application stops really scaling with more cores and which cores you should use at that core count. The main thing I do on my personal machines is software development and with the languages I use now I only really ever use 14c/28t at once.


At that thread count my two options are really the 14700k or 7950x, and while the AMD might have lower performance when all cores are saturated I'm not going to be saturating them. In a 14c MT test those full Zen 4 cores are going to outpace those E cores a lot, making AMD a better option.


For a lot of professionals I think the advice of "get whatever has the better MT score" is quickly becoming harder to agree with software usually doesn't scale linearly and I really wish tech media would mention it more.

[scowlingcandy]

just as i was about to watch this video i remembered your klik empire video and i just wanted to say that i really enjoy your CPU videos and have for as long as ive been watching them (including bygone era advice cos they are fun) i hope that you enjoyed making this video because i would love for you to continue making more like them, you are one of the big creators i watch where i am actually axcited to klik and see when you have a new video. have a good day chap. -your fan

[ElsK]

When fx cpus succ 120w it was like the worst thing that ever happened in cpu history and now intels 400w consumption is a selling point

[kkrisill]

I used to be a NVDIA and Intel "fanboy" for many years. Last year though i got myself a new gaming pc with the Ryzen 7 5800x3D and the 7900XT and i absolutely love it.

[Dogo.R]

Thunderbolt 5.0 support in cpus is coming out too which makes external GPUs very viable now for many tasks that are optimized decently. Most tasks avoid gpu to cpu back and forth communication anyways because of the latency.
Most tasks are a throughput problem.
And thunderbolt 5.0 has reached very viable throughput imo.
It very much shrinks the gap between laptops and desktops even more.

[jensgerntholtz]

12:34 This is one of Intel's greatest shortcomings in their marketing.
E-Cores aren't Power Efficient. They are space-efficient. In a sense that Intel can fit 4 E-cores in the space of 1 P-core on the CPU "die".
I haven't found any benchmarks that substantiate "Power Efficiency" claims. On the contrary, the P-cores deliver more performance per watt compared to the E-cores.

[duccc]

Thought the quality of this video is a little bit off (and no 4K) until you said it was made on the mini PC and then it all makes sense

[changeagent]

Performance per watt has stagnated though and is incremental at best. Id like to see near threshold computing advancements and big leaps in performance at the top end of way over 100% not 10%.

[Tomiply]

3:20 Ehh, I still prefer AMD by a long shot. My opinion hasn't changed over the last few years. In my country, a 7800X3D costs less than a 14700K and performs better in games while using less power and being less hot. In my country at least, you'd be insane to go with Intel.

[AirWolf]

3:19 I am such person(AMD)... why? Well its simple, in 2017 I had no job so I had a low budget, and in 2024 I have a job and a much larger budget so power over budget is on the table now.

Now if only the GPU prices followed the CPU trend.