'I thought Christians were stupid' (w/ Jake from August Burns Red)

Jake Lurhs from August Burns Red joins to talk about how the punk and metal scene looks down on Christians.
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[nickchellsen]

Growing up, I could only listen to “Christian” music. Because of that, the Tooth & Nail/Solid State bands were what got me into the scene. I think it’s great that you not only talk with the guys from these bands, but also ask them about their faith and religion. 👍🏻

[blasher]

Great interview. A lot of millennials including myself have been struggling with faith for years and are trying to find a path back to God.

[TechReviewTom]

I talk to God like he's my best friend, I don't change any dialect or act a certain way I just say what's on my mind to god in my head

[tehblueduck]

Lord, show me the way as I give myself to You
Never let me go, hold me with Your everlasting love
Be my strength, be my voice, my glory
Set me free

Redemption

[mattblatchley]

great segment! I recommend the entire interview to anyone who hasn't seen it!!! It goes by really fast!!!

[ProgrammedForDamage]

What Jake said around 2:53 - Man that is so right on! The whole interview really resonated with me. Great discussion between Finn and Jake.

[richardmeyer]

2:57 Yes Im A Sinner Im Not Any Better We All Fall Short Of The Glory Of God !

[bazamere]

Thanks for having these interviews and talking about things that so many people are afraid to talk about. I watched the full episode and didnt agree with everything. But when things are said coming from a place of acceptance of other views it OK to not agree.
Im not religious, I believe in Science, not God. But really they dont have to be mutually exclusive. What I call "science" is maybe what someone else calls "god". They both encompase things that us mortals cannot explain, science follows the belief that everything can be explained if we can just figure it out, while I think religion is more, there are some things we arent meant to know. Honestly I dont know which is correct, but does it matter? I dont like how some people have weaponized god though (and I also dont like how some people have weaponized science either). So I tend to lable myself as spiritual instead of religious... but honestly I think talking about science and spirit is like saying 6 of one, half dozen of the other...
Again thank you for having these interesting conversations though. Its a rare thing on the internet these days

[anoceanbetweenus]

Solid interview. Jake and ABR are the reason I was able to come off my pedestal as an “elitist” agnostic myself. The album “rescue and restore” really helped me further understand and assess Christianity, religion, and more importantly myself and my relationship them. I’m still very much agnostic but have found respect for those that do the real work of the god they worship. Christianity and religion are not inherently bad, in fact when not abused it is something that can foster monumental positive change in peoples lives and even cultural changes. However, just as anything else, there are always bad apples that ruin it for everyone else and take it and construe it to take advantage of others. There are faith based organizations, churches, etc that are doing the real work and supporting communities in desperate need. Shout out to those that take action and place people first before religion. I’ll end this with a ABR lyric that resonates with me to this day from the song “Treatment.”

“Stop dwelling on what happens when we die. Start helping others while we’re still alive.”

[MySkilletfan]

I may not be religious but Wolves At The Gate songs have helped me through a lot

[lorenzosyquia]

How can you be punk and be rebellious and look down on one of the most rebellious philosophies in the world?

[MikeHoncho]

Jake’s a fantastic dude. Never met a friendlier guy in the scene

[taxzby]

We also need to take into account our cultural bias towards tradition. For westernised faith...its all the same, needs to be changed and reflect the changing community...but for other cultures faith its like wow that unchanging structure that is so awesome that it has survived and your able to practice it. Our modern mindset can be often too focused on individuality and entertainment.

[darthvaldez]

I'm not Christian nor religious but I can say that Jesus saved me growing up staying away from trouble gangs and drugs

[JulianLee-ln]

I really like you guys, and what you have to say. I grew up as a "Christian metal head". I am concerned, however, that you would equate Christianity with "American Brand Christianity", which aligns with such false prophets as Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copelannd, Tourniquet, in their classic, "A dogs Breakfast", address these issues.

[toddnuyen]

Jake saying "fuck" in a discussion about God made me incredibly happy, because I swear like a sailor but also love my God. Made me feel more of a personal connection with one of my favorite vocalists. Small shit but I like it lol

[-BitHeart]

Finn, as a Christian myself, I can confirm even Christians are judgmental a-holes. Unfortunately that is part of being human after sin entered the world. The difference between much of the secular world and that of the Christian world is, because Jesus died for us and faced God’s wrath in place of every one of us(the whole world) we actively attempt to avoid that part of us rather than allow it to permeate every thought and action. Now, that doesn’t always happen… sometimes we screw up. Which is why I thank Jesus for his sacrifice, humble myself and ask for forgiveness. You see, the ONLY factor that separates me from an unbeliever is recognition of the sacrifice made on our(the whole world’s) behalf. The only thing that separates you from me is knowing the love Jesus has for, not only me, but you as well. I love you, brother. I pray blessings rain down upon you in such a way that denial is no longer possible. Amen.

[erykvonritzmann]

Well, this isn't bad religion... bait.

[bradbrown]

I think the thing that gets lost on so many people is they judge God by the church. The church is full of broken people who need Jesus. As I listen to so many of the Christian bands from when I grow up reject their faith now because of the way they were received or treated by other people claiming to be Christians I can only think one thing. You cannot judge the character of a Holy and Perfect God by the actions of an unholy and sinful person. If you want to know who God is, the Bible is the only way. Don't look to humans they will only let you down. There are some excellent teachers out there, but I can attest to the fact that the local church is extremely broken, and many of them have forsaken the Bible to try to draw people in with cultural relevancy. If any church or believer can't support what they are saying or doing with multiple verses from the Bible than it's likely what they are doing isn't what God has called them to do. I'd love the chance to talk religion with Finn or any of these Bands who have fallen away, just to hear what their thoughts are. The churches are full of hypocrites, myself included, but when the Bible is preached faithfully it has the power to change lives and reveal who God really is.

[northernxdarkness]

Look Being As An Ocean does it perfectly.
They have lyrics about god, especially their first album. But it doesn't matter. What they're writing about isn't really sth "christian". All of their lyrics is more universal. They're not preaching christianity. I belive just their vocalis Joel is still christian, but they all used to be. The also have new members. Still... Joel is talking about love and acceptence and stuff, but it's not in "christian" way. I love this band so much, i had some of the most beautiful moments in my life with this band and i'm not christian at all.
Btw I need to say, I'm not a fan of christianity or religion in general. But people can belive in a god or gods without being in a religion. Organized religion is in our history is mostly the cause for so many bad things, like discrimination, wars and hate.