Why You Should NOT Main Cloud in Smash Ultimate

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[showdowncraft]

I feel like every move on cloud is safe to throw out

[bone_ftw]

NO WAY THIS GUY SAID CLOUD STRUGGLES AGAINST ZONING 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[toastedtarts]

Pretty much ppl will hate you for playing any character

[nicholascooke]

Cloud is one of the best characters at actually beating zoners in the game. His airspeed is great meaning he can jump in projectiles a lot easier, and his range is so massive that once he throws out a move near towards a zoner, his hotboxes will just beat out their projectiles.

Characters like samus young link and Mii gunner actually despise cloud for these reasons. Your other points are valid though i'm just not sure about that one .

[pamoon_]

I think another thing is he is very common in quickplay, which means most people will know what to do against him

[andreazhab]

Gonna try and counter every argument of yours

1. He has an incredible air speed, two disjointed moves that cover him and stall him in the air too (neutral B and side B) and various timings on upb, which can stop people trying to hit you if they stay too close to the ledge, while also making them risk getting sucked into the spike hitbox offstage. He even has occasionally access to limit, which makes him virtually unedgeguardable. Is he probably dead if he goes offstage without a jump? Sure, but that applies to most of the cast anyway. He’s nowhere near having a BAD recovery

2. His startup data is average, but he’ll mostly lose scramble situations against character who are supposed to be strong in cqc anyway, and even then they still have to get over his walking game of super safe disjoints, which 90% of the cast can’t do

3. Palu, Pythra, Roy are all very easy character that has been consistently placing on top of every tier list and tournament since their release

4. This is just a straight up LIE. His zone breaking is probably among the best in the game, because he has absurd mobility, midrange and access to limit camping, which make him enter god mode for 15 seconds. Zoners generally are clunky, slow and/or have short ranged normals, they have very limited tools to deal with someone that has the mobility and disjoints of cloud, let alone limit cloud. Saying limit doesn’t apply a lot of pressure is true only if you’re bad at applying pressure yourself. Just watch any vod of Sparg0: top players shit themselves when they’re against limit cloud

5. That’s just a point towards maining him lmao

[slayer]

His recovery isnt that bad, u can mix it up a bit, since the up b buff it has gotten a lot better

[raidenseigie]

As a cloud main, I can agree with most of this. Recovering isn’t THAT bad cuz you can do a good amount of mix-ups, plus by the time you would get sent far enough to not recover, you would have limit which makes ur up-b go to the heavens. Also against projectiles you can just mixup charging limit and doing fake approaches with your -2 sword back air both of which put lots of pressure on your opponent.

[vicentenarbona]

Actually, Cloud beats like every zoner except for Min Min

[lbesavant]

You really do not know how effective Cloud’s gameplan is against projectiles.

[kakarotlovesgames]

Cloud is even more common now than captain falcon on elite smash

[inked]

Based video bro. there’s no reason to play cloud having a wide selection of characters better than him

[Mana_the_great]

I main piranha plant bc he looks funny

[Nicholas-iwxc]

Clouds recovery is underrated he has so many mixups when he has ajump combined with disjoints makes him kinda tricky to edgegaurd when the cloud player doesnt make mistakes
Not to mention a wall jump which gives him many more options on wall stages

[toadboy]

Corrin’s gonna be next, I wonder what he’ll say for them

[switch-rl]

are we gonna ignore that he also has a separate short saying you should main cloud 💀

[greedo]

Cloud has winning matchups against most zoners. The projectile thing is kinda cap

[just_the_g.o.a.t]

People will hate you
That's maining any character in smash tbh

[LAVNDRTWN]

cloud player here, yup

you pretty much got everything right good on you