Nemesis REVEALS ALL Problems in LEC (ft. Diamondprox Tweet) 😲🔥🤫

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2019/2020 LEC were rly competitive cause G2 and FNC were rly pushing each other. These 2 teams were above the rest and constantly challenged each other to be even better. Yes, G2 always came on top, but FNC still put best fights and pushed G2 to improve while now there are no 2nd team, who would as good and could push G2.

jonasjurgelevicius
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People like Wunder, Nemesis, Selfmade, Alphari, Bwipo dont have a job, that just shows u that teams in LEC dont care about being competitive

alenlisic
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I mean he does have a point, we went from players like Selfmade, Bwipo, Broxah, Wunder, Perkz, Jankos, Nemesis.. at worlds to players like Nisqy...Chasy, Sheo..Nuc,

alexursu
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Franchising went great riot keep it up

jordy
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I just hate people calling 2018 FNC lucky, they beat IG in groups, EDG in quarters and stomped C9 that beat Afreeca

alenlisic
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the problem in lec imo is that there is a fucking lot awful players that somehow get there and they just occupy the spot while teams are too scared to look for someone new / don't have money to try out new talents / have really bad scouting

piotreus
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One thing I notice is that team play doesn’t click as well with western teams as much as eastern teams. Eastern players consistently set their teammates up and juggle aggro in team fights. Western teams should really review these games as they leave them selves susceptible to tps, lane prio leading into rotation and lack of reliable set up within their comps. I don’t think the players are bad it just seems like 5 solo queue players instead of a real team.

Beizzangv
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That's kinda of what happen to Brazil every year. I'm not trying to draw direct comparisons between Brazil, North America, and Europe, but there’s considerable potential for improvement if teams would cease repeatedly signing underperforming players out of sympathy.

VithorPrestes
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"comfort breeds weakness" -knife cat

OklahomaHotdog
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Nepotism is so rampant it’s actually insane, if you have friends in high places in esports they can and will get you a job regardless of qualification. I’m no pro player so I haven’t seen the very top but I have seen the lower level positions in NA teams where people actually don’t do and have no idea how to do their jobs but hey they are friends with the owner or co owner or an investors kid

nathanspreitzer
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Team environment is more important than the player roster. We have seen it time and time again, be it in EU or NA...

TheDovakhin
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EU was competitive. Then G2 sent perkz to NA and rekkles to ERL. It being a "business move" doesn't mean it didn't fuck the entire region. G2 made the region worse. You can't now complain that you have no competition and no way of getting better when you ensured that. That's what happens when your business moves are only short term good. Same can be said about the scumbag in rogue who fucked over odo and MAD blocking elyoya from going to fnc. We are actively making "business decisions" which make the region weaker and then the orgs are surprised that EU gets fucked at worlds. Enjoy not getting revenue and making much less money because of your smart decisions.

RestTarRr
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Riot is corrupt -> teams are corrupt -> game changes made for pro play is corrupt -> Account boosted players in EU NA SEA representing the region.

thamutha
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In individual esports it’s not bogged down by this shit so the best players get the best results plain and simple, as long as they can travel to the event. Lots of regions have representation ie in fighting games. Something like Pakistan in Tekken or Mexico in King of Fighters will never ever happen with how the league esports environment is set up

Amaling
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I was watching Fakers stream back in 2022, and he mentioned something about how he thinks the EU has drastically underperforming lately in the major stages because he thinks G2 is well coached and prepared team, therefore they do not have any other team with proper competition, scrim, improve, individually and as a team, meantime they in Korea, each year have at least 4 teams he finds himself and t1 learning, pushing each other to be better. so I think until eu won't have at least 2-3 decent teams, as faker said, we kinda are su*king at the major stage for the time being, hopefully, that changes one day. Hopefully, eu teams (managers) stop milking sponsors cash, and doing nonsense with teams and rather focus on creating a competitive roster with the best eu players and treating them properly.

ziogas
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Well it's harder for the lower teams to compete cause big money orgs acquire the big name players. G2, Fnatic, Vitality have deep pockets so they can collect the big names in the league more easily than others. Like try convincing Caps to play for a team like Astralis. When even your big market teams start performing badly, then your league is in trouble.

JasonJia
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It was spoiled by the franchise system, which completely stopped the progress of all teams, they are not looking for newcomers, either old players or foreign players play from year to year, before each team had a certain fear that they will be replaced by other teams from the Challenger League, but now even the last team will be in the plus thanks to advertising and so on, and the LEС is stagnating

ИсмаилАбляев
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LEC was shaped just like Carlos wanted. Only one good team and FK the others.

menchoxe
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A lot of bad takes here imo. The league is bad and there's no competition but G2 literally stopping the competition from playing is "just business, they'll do anything to win?" "We just need a roster of good players, nothing else matters" is what NA has been trying for the last like 7 years and look how good they are. Super teams of the best players you can find just brought together haphazardly with bad coaches and management get shit results. On the contrary, the teams that perform best at worlds from NA year after year are the teams of NA talent with good synergy together (historically C9, this year NRG), even if the individual players are not necessarily the best in the league. Looking at KR teams that win worlds, it's the same story a lot of the time. Will anyone really say that Crown was better than Faker in 2016? Was Pyosik the best jungler at worlds last year? The players do have to be some of the best of course but there's so much more to it than that. I can't speak to the points about corruption and nepotism, but just looking at the history of league esports, building super teams is not the answer.

haruman
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to be fair. vitality really did try lol. they made every possible move they could have and it didnt workout. it sucks but as for the rest i agree.

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