Avelo is here. This changes everything!

The future of SCUBA diving has landed in South Florida. It's time to dive Avelo.

130K of you watched the video we made at the Avelo booth at DEMA last year. I spent last week in Key Largo learning to dive the best new invention in scuba diving in the last twenty years. Also, team, I answer your thousands of questions about Avelo.

Avelo is a disruptive technology. It will revolutionize single cylinder scuba diving. It is here, it is real and it is awesome! As always, there will be haters. But as someone who has actually dived Avelo and is part of the team to make the first ever Avelo dives in the Atlantic Ocean, I know what I'm talking about. Avelo is the future of scuba diving.

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Avelo is here. This changes everything!

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D.S.D.O

James
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Avelo is here. This changes everything!

[sirexilon]

Way to leave the bad news for last James LOL - I've seen the Avelo Videos before and your Dema and the traveling or the availability have been the big question, the others well you have to adapt to a new system, and if is proven safe like you just did with all the "non-emergency" points you explained then perfect. The point that they are not talking about price might be is cost prohibited and they don't have the funding to make it more mass production or as you said they want to sell or rent the patents, you don't need to sell your idea just let others use it for a price and a period of time.... But as anything in tech it wouldn't be the first time the better tech dies without making it to the masses. Mini Disk was way better than a CDRW in many ways... but who remembers them? Or knows they existed...
Great video James. Top notch. Thank you!

[Yourdiveconcierge]

Fantastic video! Thank you for being a great buddy during the course, what a blast 😂😂 Happy birthday🎉

[mrowland]

As interesting as the concept is, I struggle to see how this could ever become mainstream or "the future of SCUBA diving", for a few reasons:
1. The mere existence of additional failure points--regardless of how minimal or addressable or non-issue they may be--is going to be a sticking point for insurers. This would likely apply to both operators and individuals--liability insurance for operators offering these systems will be higher, DAN individual dive accident insurance will be higher (or simply refuse to cover dives using this system), etc. It would take huge uptake and mountains of safety data to convince actuaries otherwise. Operators--many of whom already run on razor-thin margins--will be hesitant to take up any system that eats into their bottom line.
2. In a similar vein, operators would have to invest in system-specific instructors and technicians. Even with high incentives to gain those certifications, it's a catch-22: you need widespread uptake in order to make certification as appealing as traditional instructor and technician certs, but you also need lots of Avelo instructors and technicians in order to drive widespread uptake. To overcome these hurdles, it would take significant up-front investment/funding that I don't think exists in the dive industry. You have to spend money to make money and achieve a self-sustaining level of uptake.
3. Traditional certification agencies will not touch this, and as you say, an OW cert is required. Given how limited the availability of the system is, what's the incentive to spend literally thousands of dollars to get this certification when an already-not-cheap PADI/NAUI/SSI OW cert is near-universal?
4. Traditional gear manufacturers like Huish or Aqua Lung will likely work to keep their hold on the gear market. This would apply to direct individual sales but more so to contracts with dive operators and retailers--where they really make their money. It's not unreasonable to see a major manufacturer saying, if you offer this system we will end your incentives for purchasing our equipment to use as rental equipment. I would expect them to throw their weight around to stifle upstart competition.
5. The price point. Cheapest option I could find on their website is $3, 800 for five days of training + diving, not including travel and lodging. Completely inaccessible to the average diver. If there's to be any chance of strong uptake, certification needs to be just as accesible (from a travel standpoint) as traditional certs, and significantly cheaper to justify adding it on to the cost of a traditional cert.

It all comes down to money. Without significant cuts to costs (at all levels), huge investment up front, and greater geographic accessibility, this will remain a niche proof of concept verging on gimmick.

[greathairengineer]

So, the pressure reading changes as you add water for buoyancy and this is marketed to, essentially, new divers to solve a "problem" related to not good enough training and lack of desire to be a better diver, a solution looking for a problem. Now, we expect the same divers to understand rule of thirds at the start of their dive and do basic math underwater to figure out when they should turn the dive and head up with appropriate reserve? Anyone here who has crewed on a dive boat before knows that new divers running out of air and busting their NDL is far more common than one would think.

I'm in tech and appreciate new technology, what I have never been a fan of are inventions which turn out to merely be a solution looking for a problem and secretive technology thay cant be purchased, only leased/licensed.

Most shops don't want a recurring cost, its smarter to capitalize the equipment and get depreciation over time, not have a constant cost that never goes down, likely may increase with time, and also still front the cost of maintenance and repair. In difficult and slow times most shops look to trim recurring costs as fast as possible to weather a storm, this isn't the case with this system, as of yet. It'll be interesting to follow them, but as of right now I'm not coming to a conclusion, but I always remain skeptical at first, approach cautiously, and wait for something to mature because, especially in Tech, things come and go.

[imafreeamerican]

I currently dive a Dive Rite Transpac and I absolutely can't wait to certify and then be able to purchase this system. Working with submarines for 15 years this system is so intuitive to me. Sure wish the Key West event wasn't a one off, I was ready to jump in my Bronco and head there. Was glad that you showed how to hang out at the surface using the SMB. Agreed that is a little awkward, but it works. Thanks for this great review. Your comment regarding running out of gas was spot on! Do admit you had me laughing.

[Madeyes]

I like the idea. As a diver with back & shoulder injuries anything that could reduce stress on these parts is a benefit. I was happy with the maintenance & failure points you addressed apart from you didn’t mention a pump failure in the on position. There is no system which is 100% fail safe. You’d have a runway adding weight to your system with no way to stop it. A scooter you can let it go or jam a knife into the prop but what do you do with a sealed unit?
Apart from that I like the idea. I wonder if it can be developed into a tech system in the future & twinset type diving? Look forward to seeing how it develops.

[mmd]

my guess would be:
most divers have to travel for being able to dive, this cuts the possible sale amount so much that lease and service agreements with dive centers and possible "avelo-only" dive centers( caused by the possible disruptivenes of avelo (no wear and tear on BCs etc. and minimal seed capital need, could be huge selling point for "avelo-only" dive centers) are the most lucrative ways to keep a long term business through going full 21st century whilst "selling diving as a service".
This could explain their refrain to sell individually as revealing their price and maintainance cost could harm well adjusted distributing plans.
Just some thoughts
greetings from Berlin

[bkdexter]

I love your Aussie style delivery! No PC crap, just deliver the message like an adult. Straight, to the point and eff off if you don't like it! It's refreshing mate! Thank you!

[alexbrylske]

Back in the mid-70s, I dived the old Dacor Nautilus Constant Volume System. Clearly, it had some flaws and was nowhere near the sophistication level of Avelo. But, boy, did I love diving neutrally buoyant throughout an entire dive, making only one adjustment at the beginning. Hat's off to these folks. I've finally lived long enough to see a real breakthrough in scuba technology and can't wait to try one.

[PedroOjeda]

I think Avelo will be amazing. But you missed the issue with the pump failing/running out of battery. With Avelo, you eventually become positively buoyant as you cosume air, requiring more water to be added by the pump. Without the pump you have NO way of adding weight and becoming neutral. This means you will begin to ascend and have no way of stopping that ascent, no safety stop unless you continously swim down for 3 minutes to fight the positive buoyancy.

This is a safety issue. Avelo claims to solve uncontrolled ascents, which they do. But if the pump fails, Avelo will lead to uncontrolled ascent. With normal scuba, you can always manually add or remove air from bcd, it just requires effort.

[AlwysLauren]

"How much lift does this have?" *is* a valid question, and it's answerable: it's how positively buoyant the Avelo system is with no water in it, like you would be at the surface. I sized my wing so it has enough lift to keep me, with all my gear, at the surface, it's reasonable to confirm the Avelo system could do the same. It would likely need to do so with a much smaller amount of lift if I don't need a weight belt anymore, but the principle stays the same.

With a system like this it's also reasonable to ask how negative it is when it's completely full of water. That will tell me how much weight I need to offset my drysuit (if any).

[loudmelissa]

If I ever had the chance to try it, I would! I’d love to go to Maui and have the experience of this system! Shout out to Horizon, I’ll be planting coral with you and diving this August 12th weekend!

Happy birthday James!

[vwsuperbeetleconvertible]

I cannot foresee Avelo becoming the next big "deal". You cannot continue to dive in the same location, eventually you need to branch out and travel. For this new product to become available everywhere (dive shops operating in developing countries) it might be a while. The product appears cumbersome to lug on an airplane, all the while when SCUBA tanks are available at every dive shop in the world. I ‘m going on a dive trip tomorrow (Asia) and I’ve packed my SCUBA gear, GoPro w/ accessories and clothes (2 suitcases + backpack). I would need to purchase additional baggage from the airline (3rd bag) just to take Avelo system with me. Is the product good = Yes, but when was the last time you brought a SCUBA tank on an airplane?

[-paulmp]

It looks absolutely incredible, as someone with some back issues I'm looking forward to trying this out at some point.

[rilesidedivers]

Looks like a clever system, only query I have and something I didn't see being addressed, is what if the pump sticks on and just adds max water continuously - this could cause overweighting and descending too deep. Is there any mechanism for that or do you just open the water dump and abort? Thanks for the video, definitely an interesting approach!

[CopyRightJT]

Happy Birthday Hannes🥂
Thank you so very much for the great video as always

[manuelgrima]

Seems like a great innovation and with most innovations it needs incremental improvement over time. I would have two concerns: 1. The tank looks long. For a short person this could be annoying when your legs constantly hit the tank. 2. Floating on water may be solved with the dsmb but surely an inflateable vest could be integrated for added comfort and safety.
Like most other comments, I also believe it will be years before holiday divers can use this system.

[RichardRothfleisch]

I saw the boat off loaded with those “very cool tanks” on Thursday. I can believe I missed the opportunity to say hello you u in person😢! Happy Birthday! Susan Wilkins

[JamesThomas-hdme]

Looks awesome, biggest problem would be distribution. I get trained now and it not be anywhere I dive for the next 5 or 10 years…will I remember everything and what changes will they have made in that time? Will I have to be retrained every time due to changes taking up my valuable vacation time?
If you live where you dive and can buy your own kit it would definitely be awesome.

[ThePolymath]

Clear concise, and you’ve answered many questions. Also, a very happy birthday!🎉 Aloha 🤙🏽