Scientists say solar panel advances will see millions go off grid

Scientists say solar panel advances will see millions go off grid

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[JebusHypocristosX]

I live in Northern Ontario Canada and I have been off grid with solar on the north shore of Lake Superior since 2004, charging two EV's since 2014 and now I power my entire business and machine shop off grid with solar.

I have saved a fortune in money I would have spent to rent my energy, generating your own energy is the best investment you can make.

[markumbers]

If batteries come down in price like solar then every farm in Australia will be off grid. Regional towns I would imagine too would be independent. Local solar, wind, hydro, batteries and diesel back up generation would be perfect. Diesel generation is expensive but very cheap to lay idle which would be most of the time. Such a huge reduction in the thousands of miles of high voltage transmission lines and the poles and wires and the maintenance required to service remote communities would surely allow for cheaper grid prices for city customers.

[Flickerbrain]

What I found interesting after we got our solar panels up and running, was the actual app we got. Suddenly you could really see where you were wasting energy, not only how much you were getting from the panels. Why were we burning 350W through the night? Why am I using so much energy to make 1 cup of tea? Within a week of having the app, our most energy consuming light in our house was the 40W heat-proof oven light. The app alone made a huge difference.

[sunrisejak]

I've had my full house solar system with house batteries for about 2 years and my Tesla for 1 year. Not enough production capacity to go off grid but we are super happy with the results and huge savings. Added to that the local grid energy company provides a 2nd electric meter fir the express purpose of charging an EV with off peak rates. Nice. Duet cheap too. Hence my house and transportation costs are crazy low. Thailand gets lots of "sun days" and the decision to add solar a good one. My mathematical payback is about 5.5 years. 👍

[googlelansdown]

I live in the south east of England and have a 4.7kw solar panel system, I also have batteries. I should also say that the house position is excellent for catching the sun. So far this year I have had 34 days when my roof has produced less than 5kWs in total for the day. There is no way that I could live a self sufficient life without the grid. I am very fortunate that I can charge the batteries over night at a very cheap rate in the winter months.

[OrganicPower-Australia]

Hey bud great content! Just finished our 20kw whole house off grid setup in sunny Queensland. 6 months in, and the savings are huge! NO bill and we run the AC or heating when we want not when we can afford to. So much better and 100% in control. 😎

[KhanR-qmxi]

In California here in the US the greedy electric utility companies like PG&E are ripping off homeowners by lowering the amount of money the homeowners can get by selling their excess electricity to the electric utility. This is hurting rooftop solar in the US.

[aa-hjfd]

The only real problem is storage. The amount of resources are a problem. There needs to be a break through/out technology for storage. The second major issue is politics.

[sjdtmv]

Yes I am at a turning point here in Australia, I have grid connect and off grid power, the only reason I need the grid is for exporting power with a good feed in of 12 cents, this feed in is being reduced over time and come Aug 2024 when my 12 cents will likely only be 3 to 5 cents offered on the table for exports which wouldn't even cover availability costs to stay with the grid, I will remove myself from the grid, my grid usage is only 90 kwh a year!!, my off grid setup is 8kw of panels with 52kwh of batteries, when my grid connect is shutdown it will give me an extra 15kw of grid connect solar panels for off grid use, along with an upgrade off grid inverter going from 5kw to 11kw now sitting in a box waiting for the moment

[stephencullum]

I retired from a power company. My former employer is moving towards solar. Investing money in technology to predict demand with where the sun is shining and moving power where it is needed. They have several solar farms and more are in the works. I live in Florida and most of the state land is not on the grid. I can see people moving deeper into the woods if they can get their energy independently. To get away from government control over our lives.

[stephenhammond]

Yes Sam absolutely correct. But faster than you think, because it will become self propagating. The more people go off grid, the more energy companies will have to charge to cover production and maintenance costs. So more will be forced off grid and so on. Big energy companies either electricity or hydrocarbon, are slowly loosing their controlling grip on society and its not before time. Love your work mate, hoping for some better luck for you and your family. Cheers.

[TerryHickey-xtmf]

I think the main thing to come out of all this, is the potential decentralization of the power supply chain. Here in NZ if we have a bad storm or an earthquake, large parts of our country can be temporarily out of power. If we can become a more decentralized system, it would mean a major event in one part of the country will not affect other areas so badly. If some of us had v to g with our evs or a home battery storage system with solar panels, others would not need to suffer a blackout in that situation, and the contributors would be paid for their input, hence the need for a grid. It will happen eventually, and both Ausi and NZ are both in the box seat regarding renewables. It is very windy here in NZ, and we do get some sun here in the north, I lived in OZ for many years, and I can tell you there is no lack of sunshine there!

[simonpaine]

I'd love to see this report! 50% already are independent? I call BS.

[daveh]

Energy retailers need to evolve in two ways:
1) into energy transactors to accomodate home electricity generation
2) into location agnostic providers for domestic & mobile electricity consumption. Kind of how the telecoms market had to accomodate home/mobile broadband.

[hyweljthomas]

Not sure about this. Here in the UK, even homes with solar and decent batteries still need the grid as a backup.
We also have a lot more people in apartments who will not see the benefit of solar - or EVs.

[waywardgeologist]

I’m in Michigan, off the grid for water, sewer, food, and eventually once I get batteries, power. As for transport, 2011 Nissan Leaf.

[simonpannett]

Sensible to be "off grid"or part of a community "mini grid" as Grid operators are making billions from shifting electrons around rather that getting local grids balanced with storage rather than travel hundreds of miles!!

[John-FourteenSix]

Hi from the NW UK. You raise an important issue Mister Viking.

We’ve gone fully electric and the day we had the gas supply removed was a good one! Averaged over the whole year, half of our home energy comes from the Solar panels on our roof. In the peak generation of summer, we basically run BOTH our home and car from our Solar. :-)

Wind power for home use appears to be very much in its infancy. This needs serious development yet. The RidgeBlade system looks promising.

Cheers.

[operatorsix]

went off grid a couple years ago, ..i dont miss power bills.

[alanjm]

I've lived off grid for the past 15 years. What will drive more people to go off grid will be the rising prices and reduced reliability that changing the grid to renewables will bring.