10.6 Bonus Balance Is Great AND Terrible...

Some big hits and some bigger misses in the 10.6 Bonus Balance update, here's my thoughts...

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[ozygean]

The flameforge nerf is surprising cause I haven't seen one person build it. I would understand it as a preemptive nerf if pridwen would have been nerfed as well.

[justinostrem]

Just to put into perspective how terrible flameforged hammer was before this nerf, at capped phys and magic prots, the item would deal 70 damage per tick, and that's before you factor in prots on whoever you're hitting. An adc or mid sitting by their support could get close to 100 prots, which would mitigate about 50% of incoming damage. That would make flameforged deal 35 damage per tick, and now it does even less. This item was terrible before, now it's just un-buyable

[zacksavoia]

The patches this year have felt so out of touch. Pridwen + archdruid's, or items with bloated effects like estaff/fail not every game? Nerf the flameforged glyph no one buys. Ravana 100% p/b while Guan Yu is never seen? Nerf Guan. Marti's grass lasts 3 fucking minutes + long range easy clear + super safe ult? Take 12% prot shred (assuming you hit all 12 shots) off his ult like that's the reason this god keeps being played.

[akaj]

I'm a solo laner and thought Pridwen was busted. The fact that Ravana, an Assassin, is doing better than warriors in solo lane is absurd. How did they both get off scott-free?

[ballcadeias]

Flameforge should not be nerfed at all

[fourthcasper]

The flameforge nerf is interesting bc only some people can abuse it like shiva or king authur. While everyone and their mother is building pridwen.

[camael]

I still can't get over how bloated Marti ult is... Huge %pen, insanely high damage and being untargetable while being able to move.

It's literally a get out free ability with one of the highest damages in the game while also shredding prots for the team.

Idk who designed this but it's almost as outrageously busted as Vamanas ult

[businesscatlimbo]

This patch is out of touch. Completely. Where is the pridwen nerf? What about Ravana?

[McGooness]

I only saw flameforged in maybe 1 or 2 games across probably 30 games since the patch released. It looks like the worst glyph to be picked up now.

[stormtrooperisgb]

I feel like anyone who paid attention to the Pridwen Glyphs knew the damage one was going to be strong. Like, super strong. Gods with insta/quick damage ults like Bacchus or Geb effectively get 3 instances of damage almost right away which can easily get at least 1/3 of a squishys health for the ult alone. And god forbid a Bacchus does a full combo on you. That's at least 75% of your health gone

[terrioncoleman]

No nerf to pridwen and slap on the wrist to manticores cu chulainn still goin nuts

[basementdweller]

Ravanas shield rn is absolutely absurd it’s crazy they didn’t nerf him

[KONSACZ]

I mean you can't force an opinion that they did not try to destroy this game for some fucked up reason. Maybe some inside machinations are in play, but this few last patches are beyond fucking absurd.

[mastergs]

I just hope they wouldn’t go through with all of the guan nerfs… also, who even builds flame forged?

[nunuxaos]

i think pridwen and archdruid are actually fine :

Pridwen : damage are defense base, without any pen, the item doesn't do that much damage considering a mage should be close to his support and thus get defense.

Archdruid : the trade of damage / health lost to me make the damage dealt normal
Again, close to your support, the item will hit about 240 damage with a 10 sec cooldown
Considering the tank had to take 1K damage to deal this damage.
The issue is healing god (guan yu / amaterasu) and other role being able to buy the items with pen, and still gettin the full base damage (=using it on a jungler, this item is like a polynomicron)

For the %pen buff on mage, it kinda make sence, as a Nu wa player,
hitting support and tank with 250 defense for 250 with 40% pen and maxed out 3 (600 power) really doesn't feel good

[AlucardHorrors]

Imma be real, got back into Smite last week after a 6-7 month break and I wasn't even aware flameforge was an item. I have seen no one build it at all so

[dermarm]

warlocks gives additional +25 health or HP5 when evolved? i know the patchnotes say its health but the way they noted it makes it seem weird, so anyone know*for sure?

[fadeddragon]

Why are they nerfing flameforged when it does way less than glad shield and it’s other upgrade is just as good. It’s not like it was breaking the game.

If you wanna nerf tank on hit effects flameforged ain’t it. I wouldn’t say glad shield needs nerfs either. And warriors axe upgrades are… probably fine as they are.

If they HAD to nerf one I would prefer the axe upgrade being slightly nerfed.


Also they haven’t done anything to help ability based hunters yet. And imo they need their own item tree, assassins and ability based hunters sharing items is what holds ability based hunters back. Assassins break items that are just “okay” on hunters. They could also take LoLs approach where melee and ranged characters get more or less benefits from the item

[vhsmemories]

Mantichoras bushes need to disappear after like 30 seconds or if he gets too far away. Its ridiculous how long they stay right now

Also remove tbe damn specters/ghosts. They stop you from blinking and backing. Its annoying as hell

[williammitchell]

If they want tanks to be useful thaey need to nerf rav when %mit was op rav was leading the train too.