World’s Most ANNOYING Tennis Opponent - Pusher Mindset (Part 1)

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I love that tennistroll player.. that guy is a genius. The thing I said to someone on that video was that this type of player frustrates you because it reveals the REAL competitive level you are at. If you can't beat this guy then you may as well be playing with the same technique as him, because at least he's consistent. You aren't Federer, or any other pro, but you're trying to hit like a pro the time with highly technical shots without the consistency to make it worth it. Which is fun and the ultimate goal.. but don't get frustrated when you lose because of your lofty goals. And, these players are hard at this level but he will be stuck at that level while your progress can go further because you're working from a better base.

jmasked
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I feel like I've just been to tennis church

nolanreed
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It took me 20 years to figure out, its what I do on my side of the court that matters and not my opponents. Thank you for reinforcing this.... of course pushers are annoying but I now look at it like a challenge then a frustration.

garyaland
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Love this video. As a high school coach I see this imbalance so often. Such a hard thing to coach around and convince players to focus on what they can do to improve versus complain about the “pusher”. Really loved the moment when you pointed out that “they (the pusher) were the better player that day”. Truth!

mdow
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We have no right to expect balls with good pace, decent depth and enough topspin. It's not a social contract. If they deny you your favourite shots, you deny them their favourite shots. Hit to their backhand, take the ball early, serve and volley, whatever makes them uncomfortable.

satyu
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Roger Federer 2009 US Open 😉

I found the record of the guy in the TennisTroll video and holy smokes he wins almost 80% of his matches at 4.5!! I thought maybe it would be around 50/50, but that's honestly incredibly impressive for that play-style to be winning that many matches at 4.5.... It's like you said even if you hate it that's something you have to give respect too. Especially the fact that he is self taught.

RFinch
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Pushers adhere to the most fundamental law in tennis: keep the ball in play. Technique should enhance consistency, not at the cost of it. Form should always follow function, not the other way around.

anacap
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I have no regrets or shame to admit that I was a pusher and still sometimes adopt this same strategy to unsettle some really good orthodox technique players to unsettle them.
During my college and university days and even later, I won or ended up runners up or performed satisfactorily sticking to pushing..
But pushing needs a stubborn and patient mindset combined with really good stamina, brisk movement and endurance!!
Pushers must be praised and appreciated as they arent violating any of the game's rules and still irking established technique players!!!
Pushing strategy can be taught and coached too as its a successful weapon against some decent players too.

asifhafeez
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My coach taught me to be a pusher when I first started playing competitive. He told me to be extremely cautious while attacking and keep hitting each ball over the net in the no man's land with top spin. He knew exactly why people lose points. Unforced errors. Man told me to just hit the ball 6 to 7 times back to my opponent. And it worked! A shitty strategy that but it did get me the points. I'm glad that I've moved on from that phase though. Take a lot of risks now.

SN-oxsi
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"it's got a whole bunch of upvotes"
Redditors: Ah, finally... a *man of culture*

spazeasterix
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A view from the other side. I remember when I went first time to the court just to hit the ball with my friends I thought "wow, tennis is easy!", "and fun!" I was playing and enjoyed it very much, only thinking about hitting the court. After some time I tried playing matches (looking like this guy on the video) and people hated to play with me (especially when they lost), they said "you have no technique, no style, you should take some lessons". I thought maybe they are right, so I tooked some lessons and then I thought "wow, tennis is difficult" :P Lessons were hard for me because the "proper" way of playing seemed uncomfortable for me, but I was trying. The most annoying part was when I could not hit the target in the way instructor told me. When I tried "my way" I could send the ball where I wanted but the coach told me "doesn't matter the ball hit the target when you are doing it in the wrong way" so I tried his way and ofc the ball was in the net and he said "good, dont worry that the ball is in the net, you should do this that way". So now after many lessons my "style" is better but efficiency worst. I'm losing matches with the people I was winning before. Maybe because I'm worried now about my "proper technique", maybe becouse they are more familiar with my new "more conventional" way of playing. Good news is now they like to play with me more ;)

annalasek
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Key take aways.
1. Three fourths of the points won are mistakes from the opponent.
2. Only one fourths are winners.
3. You can choose to respect the pusher or disrespect them. If you respect the pusher then you are putting the blame on your self for loosing. If you disrespect them then you are blaming them for the loss.

pravithgouroji
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They improvise adapt and overcome, sounds like winners to me

aglight
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Please refrain from ever telling me the truth again.. unsub.

Just kidding.. Hard to look at that grease board but all true. It's funny because you start to think about why you started to play tennis in the first place. I admit it wasn't "Wow what a great sport, I want to learn this so I can win as many matches as I can!". It was "Damn! I want to be able to do that!". Not the same.

Great video as always, looking forward to the next two in the series.

stef
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Nice video! You’re 1000% right....players who struggle against “pushers” at any level tend to either not respect them as players and/or they don’t have a clear game plan. I see it even at the pro level....your opponents job is to make you uncomfortable. At the end of the day patience is the key.

ap
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I love to play against pusher. I'm a Volley player and they usually don' have good passing shot.

randomfrenchdude
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I realized that when I play stronger players, scrambling, and just trying to get the ball in play, I am a pusher to that opponent.

scotwllm
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Thanks for that perspective. Respect is key. I just try discovering some things the pusher doesn't like and then bombarding him with them. For example, many pushers don't like to come in, so I hit them short balls and easily pass them when they pop up a reply. Pushers tend to be mental and they take pride in thinking they're outsmarting you with their tactics (and sometimes they are), but I've found that making them continually do what they don't like messes up them mentally so THEY become the frustrated one on the court.

Thanks also for mentioning the analytics aspects. I know you've covered it some in the past, but I'd like to see even more on that (maybe I'M becoming too mental!). Craig O'Shannessy is really on the right track there. Who is the analytics guy "Warren" you mentioned?

hooroy
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'That's the only way you can score a point in tennis'

Code violations: am I a joke to you?

cfoples
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Excellent analysis and presentation! I am a proud 70 year old "pusher" and enjoy upsetting much younger opponents who tell me they are 4.0's and then when they lose to me respond angrily with "How the hell did I lose to you" or "If I didn't have this knee or " 5 years ago and I would have beaten you easily" or "You scrambled (sic) me!) - the last one from a Chinese person, and I am still trying to translate.

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