Explaining how to play this polymeter

Hey everybody! In this video I play a 3 vs 4 vs 5 vs 7 polymeter and I explain to you how I learned it. I hope it will give you some new perspectives on this kind of rhythm!

@ElEsteparioSiberiano I challenge you to do it, if you want to 😉 🙌
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#polyrhythms
#polymeter
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[richardhunt]

I’m not a drummer but this really makes me think about rhythm and how to make my music more interesting. Not just thinking about harmony and melody all the time.

[joc]

I get the patterns fitting together in your head, but that limb independence is something else. All kudos to you!

[TheDivergentDrummer]

That Drum Channel vid was awesome. I appreciate your insight on polyrhythms.

[paveltc]

Thank you for making such a detailed lesson on how to play the patterns. I took down notes of several of the combinations. Been tapping them out very slowly.

[bryanharrison]

So I encourage EVERY drummer to learn some sort of polyrythm pattern, maybe 2 or 3, regardless of whether or not you ever actually use them. They don't even have to be difficult like this. Just doing polys for 10 minutes a day during practice will increase your mental neuroplasticity and keep you VERY SHARP on the kit, this helps tighten up all other aspects of your playing, and yes, even more simple polyrythms help. And with that said, if you CAN learn the more complex ones, such as this example, by all means do so. Your playing improves in every way.... this truly opens your mind and liberates your limb independence. helps with precision and dynamics control to. WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, this performance is spot on. the explanation on how to learn and build this, its spot on. Her accuracy is top-notch... I watched the entire video and I didn't detect a single mistake. I AM NOT SAYING NO MISTAKES WERE MADE, I'm saying that if there WERE mistakes, I didn't catch them. So that tells us that this person spent at LEAST a few months working on this pattern. it also tells us that this is now SECOND NATURE for her, which is EXACTLY where you want to be as a drummer. You want your beats, grooves, and polys to be SECOND NATURE. Camile is an EXPERT level drummer, and an EXPERT level teacher. I have been doing polys for 30 years, and I've NEVER seen a person explain the mechanics BEHIND polys better than camille did in this video, and I've never seen a person describe HOW TO MENTALLY PROCESS the polys like camille did in this video. PROTECT THIS DRUMMER AT ALL COSTS.

[dave-d]

Oooooh! Now that's a real drum lesson.Thank you.

[alexandreash]

Yeah ! The best (my favorite) drummer in France !

[MrCongamike]

That’s great. That’s like a Samba!Gadd type groove. So cool.

[vincdrum]

Clear, precise information here 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[therealzilch]

Very nice stuff. I've only managed to play two meters at a time, so far. I do this on my double harp, each hand playing a different meter, for instance 17 against 23. But I combine this with polyrhythm. So, for example, the left hand plays a meter of 17 with five beats to a measure, and the right 23 beats with seven beats to a measure. It's very meditative.

Keep up the good work. Cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott

[OA]

The footblock in 7 on top of them…un truc de dingue. 😅
Chapeau 😊

[fiachra]

Something like this on Bruford's Upper Extremities ?
Brilliant explanation, thank you.

[TheSquareOnes]

Amazing demonstration and explanation as usual. The tip about adding in a third pattern by practicing each loop of the other patterns with it in each position (like adding each version of the 3 over the existing 5 against 4) is extremely helpful, I've been able to learn simple two pattern polymeters but anything more complex just seemed like so much to memorize at once. Being able to break it into chunks like that makes a ton of sense, still not going to be able to play something like this anytime soon but I think that will help me a lot with finally unlocking some basic three meter patterns.

[DevonSmith]

The crasher hat/kick drum groove sounds a lot like the groove in Tool- Eulogy. This was awesome, I want that Benny Grebb Crasher Hat/kick bell. The polyrhythm reminds me of King Crimson a lot.

[p.g.pg]

Je ne suis pas batteur mais je viens de découvrir la polymétrie via un tuto guitare.
À la guitare, c'est chaud...
À la batterie, je pense qu'avec 4 ou 5 cerveaux on doit pouvoir s'en sortir 😂
En tout cas bravo, je suis impressionné. Et merci pour toutes ces explications qui conduisent à écouter différemment certaines musiques un peu évoluées...

[pedalboy]

Such a great explanation - of how these work, how you work on them etc. Just wonderful & wonderful playing!

[TheDivergentDrummer]

That was awesomely explained. I'll definitely go buy your book.

[PinoBatMusicDrums]

La forza della mente non a limiti 👏👏👍👍

[emergentform]

WOW. How much coordination and time/commitment must someone need to pull this off? Magical.

[christophegragnic]

Hi and thanks for this lesson!


I'm far from this level but I'm used to play at least two different groupings quite fluently now.
Two things are very important in your lesson that I would like to emphasize for who will read the comments:

1. It's CULTURE too. It's like a song or a usual pattern.
1a. It's much easier if you have HEARD a lot of this in the music you listen to. If not, then listen to music in 5:4, 7:8 you name it.
1b. It's much easier (if at all possible) if you KNOW them before you play them. Play one while singing another, then conversely, then sing both with two different sounds. It's not just a mechanical thing.

2. The slicing and the landmarks.
2a. You have to know your 16ths very well (1e&a2e&a3e&a...), know to play only the 'e's, the 'a's, the '&' of course to have some precise beacons. Something that still helps me very much is what I call the «odd or even» thing: will the two sounds will be at the same time or in counter time, on the 8ths or counter to the 8ths...
2b. Big chunks are interesting too. Know how to start in the middle for example, as Camille explained very well.

And as Yogev Gabai says: math is very important (or does he say the contrary?). Don't hesitate to write things out, not in the classical way but maybe with diagrams.

I must admit that even working on odd meters, odd groupings and all for 30 years, and being a Meshuggah fan for 25 years, I would have thought this would have been impossible to play. Nice work!

Shameless plugs here:
A kind of transcription of Meshuggah patterns:
Some silly rhythm exercises where I divide the pulse (half time, quarter time...):

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