Budget Joystick War, Extreme 3d Pro Vs T16000m FCS

Here's a quick comparison, coming through from the stand point of an Elite Dangerous Player.

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[Engel]

That accuracy check at the end was brilliant. Havnt seen others do that. Kudos.

[JosephAlanMeador]

This is the most helpful review/comparison I've seen, thank you! The accuracy test showed there's no contest, the T16000 seems worth the extra money for that reason.

[zatyshnesvitlo]

i remember buying the 3d pro in like 2007, i didn't know they still make them

[CostlyFiddle]

I used to have the 3D Extreme when it was first introduced & loved it. When I bought Elite Dangerous I needed a new stick, so I decided to go with the Thrust master T-Flight HOTAS X. Since using it I have noticed that the lack of hall effect sensors means drastic reduction in precision & also the stick fails to fully center, instead bouncing around center on some or more axis. The T16000m on the other hand is a hall effect stick and gives way better performance in centering & precision. I now dual stick with 2 T16000m and I will never go back to single stick.

[duramirez]

Finally a Reviewer that takes things into another level. Thanks !!!!

[The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

Thrustmaster is better, I've had both. The z axis rotation can be problematic though (mine got twitchy). Take the stick apart and a couple of drops of WD40 on the actuator will fix it. Have some epoxy handy to get the little suction cup magnet thingy back in the right spot. Only put a tiny bit on the small end. You can look at the one still intact to see how it goes.

[Violinist_PL]

Being honest, I had both of them and I moved back to Logitech 3D pro. I'm using it for MFS and Xplane 11 and I have better experience with 3D pro but for sure, Thrustmaster would be better for Elite Dangerous. For normal flying there's no need to spend extra money I think.

[thejetfighter]

I have had the Logitech Extreme 3D PRO for quite some time and I recommend it if you are on a really tight budget, you're a beginner or just want something to play right away. Also recommended if you want to play some retro sims. Good video 😀

[streakurt]

I liked your defination "dinosaur" lol :D Logitech probably uses potentiometer which is just 255 different resolution and pretty low precision for todays.

[OKAST]

i just bought the t16000 for 5$ in full working condition, cant wait to test it out

[glennwatson]

I'm noticing way too much jittering in the Logitech 3D for helicopter flying. It's usable but not great. Thinking of going to the T16000 with a HOTAS.

[technovan]

thanks for the review accuracy, TM16000m is the way to go elite piracy xD

[odonovan]

The T.16000M has six "suck buttons" on the base. The buttons on the base are not duplicated from one side to the other, but are entirely different buttons. If you're using the stick, and you have to reach AROUND the back of the stick and under your arm and hand, just to press any of those buttons, IT SUCKS. It's not a bad joystick, but the buttons on it are NOTORIOUS for being garbage. They break easily, with very little use, and they are not sturdy AT ALL.

I've used 3D Pro joysticks for years. I have several of them, some of which I bought from flea markets and thrift stores. Every one of them, when I took them home and cleaned them up, calibrated and worked perfectly. As long as you have a light hand on the stick, and don't slam them around, they'll last a very long time. They're also the most ergonomic stick on the market, which makes a BIG difference for long trips/missions. I HIGHLY recommend the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, which will still be working several years from now, as opposed to the T.16000M, which will have a joystick working very well but no buttons still operational.

[onetruekeeper]

The T16000m is way more expensive than the Extreme 3d Pro, perhaps 4 times as much.

[impulsivez]

Very quick review and technical review thank you.

[kkhalifah]

VKB Gladiator NXT beats the crap out of them both.

I've got the Logitech Extreme 3D for a while before buying the VKB... the VKB is so good, I instantly regretted buying the Logitech and was instantly glad I never bothered with the T16000m. The stick return to center is *DAMPED* - you simply never see that kind of quality in a 'budget' stick anywhere.

[Hawokki]

Thanks!
They are same price for me, so I watched this. Looks like Thrustmaster is obvious choice then. Both 60€

[RedDragonz]

tried both, thrustmaster all the way. like logitech, but that stick is just not as good.

[stratcat]

Seeing how I've only replaced my Saitek once in over 15 years I'd go with the Saitek. Forget the Z-axis tho and get pedals.. otherwise it will last forever and not need a large dead zone like many other sticks after a bit of use.

[davido]

I got the T16000 recently and sent it back...hated it...throttle is too far from buttons, stick not responsive enough, couldn't tell which buttons I was pressing, weapon buttons had too long a throw to them...ugh