Intel 13900K & 13600K Temperature Myths BUSTED

There's been a lot of talk about how Intel 13th gen CPUs including the 13900K and 13600K run hot and need a lot of power. Well its time to bust some myths about how these Intel CPUs behave and why they're getting so hot and why they aren't flaming hot.

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Timestamps:
0:00 - Hot or Not?
1:03 - Air Cooling vs AIO's
1:51 - Ad Spot
2:23 - Intel 13th Gen & Power Levels
3:38 - Dodgy Motherboard Tactics
4:20 - Motherboards vs Intel Spec
6:09 - This Keeps Happening!
6:51 - All that Power for 150MHz!?
7:24 - Sensationalizing vs Reality
7:56 - 13900K Rendering Temps vs Performance
9:15 - The Best Cooler for 13900K
9:41 - 13900K Gaming Temps vs Framerates
10:56 - 13600K Limits vs No Limits
12:51 - 13600K Rendering Temps vs Performance
14:21 - 13600K Gaming Temps vs Framerates
15:00 - So Much LESS to Worry About

Review unit provided free of charge by DeepCool & Intel. This video is sponsored by Phanteks. As per Hardware Canucks guidelines, no review direction was received from manufacturer. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases.

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[HardwareCanucks]

Unlike your favorite Cheetos, Raptor Lake CPUs apparently don't have to be Flaming Hot....unless the motherboard says so. And different motherboards do different things. This seems to come up with MCE discussions on every Intel generation....so what are your thoughts on it? Shenanigans or "spec"?

[handicapper]

Finally a straightforward shot of air-cooling the 13900k. Huge thanks guys!

[Audibleknight]

As someone eyeing a 13600k this video is amazing. The comparison between different cooler types is something that was seriously needed with the overall narrative of "Raptor Lake runs hot!". Great job and much appreciated!

[pupsaderpupin]

This is the only video I've found that clearly and thoughtfully explains the thermals of these chips. Kudos guys.

[kumarsalib]

There's no excuse for these overwattage settings being default. Users are welcome to crank up their settings if they want, but people who don't mess with settings shouldn't have the lifespan of their computer jacked up without their consent.

[jubayerwasidraiyan]

you guys are the best when it comes to coolers because you GUYS ARE SOME OF THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO TEST THEM SMH I know coolers aren't as cool as graphics cards but they're definitely pretty damn important!

[_ruizatanedy]

I truly appreciate and really love that you guys made these kind of videos. Information about coolers and chip behavior this in-depth was really lacking out there.

[muhammadzinc]

I got fooled by what others were saying and I worried about 13600K temps so I bought a 13400F instead. Now I'm regretting my decision.

[ohne_speed]

What I've done to my 13700kf is: removed the power limitations, slapped a big ass Arctic Liquid II 420 on it, set the TjMax to 80°C and undervolted it by 160mV. 1-2core Turbo is 57x, 3-4 56x, 5-6 55x, 7-8 54x (stock max). 99.9% it is not even close to the 80°C limit (40-60°C usually in games and photo heavy batched editing), but i limited it to that for longetivity.

[doublemountainman]

Thanks! Cinebench multi core tests were giving me scores of 39.5k but temps of 100 degrees and thermal throttling, and after this video I turned off the msi turbo boost (and limited PL1 and PL2 to 253W just to be sure), and I get stable 85 degrees temp with scores around 37.8k. Very minor drop for a massive improvement!

[GyroCannon]

I bought a 13600k and I'm cooling it in an itx sandwich case with a 67mm-ish tall air cooler.
It does fail to hit boost clocks if I throw an all-core workload on it but I haven't seen any stutters when I peg the P cores with heavy load.
People who fell for the "Intel runs hot" clickbait are missing out on great value - better value than Ryzen 7000

[kasimirdenhertog]

6:54 very good you brought this up. I’m running a passive system with Alder Lake and found efficiency drops off dramatically above 85C. This used to be different. I’ve got a 8086K (so Coffee Lake) and when you plot out power & MHz vs. temperature, it’s pretty linear, only slightly curving off towards 100C. But Alder Lake requires about 20% more power for the same performance above 85C (Coffee Lake showing a 5-7% hike). This is due to architecture & miniaturization. Very interesting to see and important to keep in mind when you have to deal with a limited thermal budget.

[GoofieNewfie]

Noctua DH-15 2 fan Chromax 13700k. Asus Strix Gaming 790-E, Lian Li O11 EVO. Idle temp 28-34. Cinebench hits 87C, 31000+ score. No overclock. ddr5 5600 ram g-skill. Intel XM benchmark over 10k. I was determined NOT to use water or AIO. No Throttling. Multicore disabled. 100% Intel spec.

[Zhunter]

I'm using a NH-D15S with the 13600K rn and it doesn't exceed 77 degrees under OCCT with a Vcore of 1.068V at stock speeds. Gaming temps never exceed 60. Really satisfied with the cooling of the 13600K on a D15S, but I do think it's important to undervolt these CPUs to get the lower temps. (Wattage also never exceeds 150W in OCCT).

[idn]

I'm running the i5-13600k @ 5.7 GHz with a CPU frame and Arctic 280mm AIO. My max temperature while gaming today (max 1440p settings in some CPU-grinding games like Path of Exile and Star Citizen) on P-cores was 58° c and on E-cores was 46° c. Really nice package.

[nedimhalilovic]

I paired my 13600k with Thermalright Peerless Assassin because of your review and excellent price I got it for (33 euros on Amazon) and the temps are great, I overclocked my 13600k to 5, 5 GHz on P cores and 4, 4Ghz on E cores with 0.85V in XTU which comes to around 1, 26v (209W of power consumption at full load) in Cinebench r23 where I got 26200 points in multithread and 2144 in single thread

[pisachasrinuan]

This video amazing!
very well thought out, planned, well-paced. The story is perfect, it does justice to Raptor Lake. Some people seem to think that Raptor Lake is really a bad CPU that is impossible to cool (coming from some particular channels), but it's not really the whole story.

I mean, it's half Intel and half MB manufacturer's fault that makes their CPUs looks bad, but Raptor Lake is not a bad product. Anyway, people who don't like the high Power and Temp, please go to BIOS and set PL1, PL2 to what you like. Thank you!

[a]

I only cottoned onto this just this week. My 13900k was hitting TJ max on Cinebench even with a Noctua NH-D15 and 9 fans in an airflow case. Got a 280mm AIO as I couldnt fit anything bigger but wimped out and stuck it on my 12900k system as I didn't think it would still be enough. Then, switched to Intel limits and I went from around 40000 multicore points to 38000 on Cinebench but temps went no higher than 81C - mid 70s for most cores. My board (Aorus Elite Z690 DDR4) and others are making this CPU look really bad when out of the box Intel limits would be better - allowing tweaking to custom limits for those with exotic cooling solutions. I couldn't get a pass on a Timespy stability test with the out of the box settings but switching to Intel defaults I got a 99.6% score on my first attempt! Some people mention additionally or instead of doing some undervolting - I am all about stability on all workloads so wouldn't want to run the risk of any stability issues no matter how well people think they have tested an undervolt - there will always be something not tested that could cause a crash.

[moonwatcher]

After pocking around a little, I have settled for the following settings: 1. Set the tjmax to 90c for safety, 2. Set a negative 0.075v offset, 3. Set per core boost 2 cores to 5.8, 5 cores to 5.5 and 8 cores to 5.2. Didn't touch the E-cores. The AIO is a 360mm one and it runs quiet. Max power draw is around 220w and the system is stable. BTW I disabled motherboard overclocking/enhancements but didn't put limits to pl1 and pl2.

[_thevaporz]

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE cooler $40 and contact frame $12 works great.