'We Have Never Experienced ANYTHING Like This Before!' | Philosopher Raphaël Liogier

Welcome to Theories of Everything's "Rethinking the Foundations of the Academy: How to improve scientific inquiry?" series featuring Raphaël Liogier.

Raphaël Liogier of the Institute for Advanced Studies is a distinguished sociologist and philosopher, specializing in the study of beliefs, secularization, and the relationship between spirituality and modernity.

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - The Foundations of Science
04:50 - What Are Human Beings? (Anthropology)
10:05 - Why Humans Create Obstacles
16:13 - Epistemology / Determinism / Astrology
33:00 - The Traditional Man & Paradigm Shifts
36:39 - Current Phase of Science
40:41 - Physicalism / Totalism
49:29 - Zombie Science
59:46 - Metaphysical Foundation of Science
01:09:00 - What is the Universe?
01:18:03 - Outro / Support TOE

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[TheoriesofEverything]

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - The Foundations of Science
04:50 - What Are Human Beings? (Anthropology)
10:05 - Why Humans Create Obstacles
16:13 - Epistemology / Determinism / Astrology
33:00 - The Traditional Man & Paradigm Shifts
36:39 - Current Phase of Science
40:41 - Physicalism / Totalism
49:29 - Zombie Science
59:46 - Metaphysical Foundation of Science
01:09:00 - What is the Universe?
01:18:03 - Outro / Support TOE

[FirstNameLastName-tmtg]

"A theory should tell it's own limits"
- Donald Hoffman
"Reality is made of relationships"
- John Vervaeke
I could find like 5 other parallels throughout the interview, make this guy a regular guest and set him up with the gang

[SendyTheEndless]

Wow, this really scratched an itch in my brain; something that's been nagging me and making me feel a bit subconsioucly queasy about this latest age of IT and techno-darwinism. I'm completely picking up what this guy is laying down and need more of him. Thanks to both of you for talking me through this.

[barbarakane]

has outdone itself with such a fine presentation from Raphael Liogier...I took copious notes; my brain loved the ideas; this is information I will mull over - I also appreciated his passionate delivery AND your respectful attention to his talk.

[Mystery_G]

Loved this! Thank you, once again, for all that you are doing to advance our knowledge and wisdom, Curt.

[gloriaharbin]

Thank you Curt for sharing this man’s work with us. He emphasizes crucial points about the differences and limits in studying the Parts and therefore thinking you have an accurate model of the Whole. Towards the end, I kept thinking about Taoism insights of not being able to define/capture the Thing. Now thinking about Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem……Models and functional applications are fantastic and admirable for humanity, but it seems to be we almost always miss the crucial remembrance and humility that they are Models, not the grand totality.

[BabyBobRossJalapeno]

This is so great, thank you. I strangely feel tremendous comfort in this conversation.

[In_The_Now]

Love him! His concepts really make you rethink about your own reality.

[Filip-cing]

Oh this is a good one ! Thank you both !

[axle.student]

Thank you for this interview/presentation.
This is an extremely clued up person. Most people and many academics are focused upon the solutions, and take the questions for granted. This gentleman understands the question, understands the problem and can offer an insightful definition of the problem. We can never progress toward a solution without truly understanding the problem in the first place.
That being said I suspect this gentleman also has deep insights into the solutions. He can see past the subjective human mind, he can see beyond his own human veil or subjective reality.
So many echos of my own thoughts throughout this video :)

[cgtxzvh]

Heyyy... My show is on....
Wow! "The theory is always has to be refuted and when the theory is broken, that's a revolution." Now I understand why D. Hoffman has been saying; "A good theory reveals its limits."

[cgtxzvh]

He elegantly sums up everything in the most exuberant manner... Vastly insightful...

[gnvdude]

Curt great guest. One of my new favorite people now. Great interview.

[savoirfaire]

Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information? T.S. Eliot

[JorJor]

Please get Hoffman and Chris Langan together with the premise that Langan has the theory explaining the computer to Hoffman’s user interface!!

[pugix]

A lot of excellent ideas he presented. Most importantly, the human being is one who feels that something is missing from his knowledge. He seeks a total knowledge, i.e. a theory of everything. But this is not possible because the world is not a fixed, knowable thing. It is open, and at bottom a void from which endless possibility yields new, what can we say, experience. Experiences can be collected and correlated, making it possible to do many things (like acupuncture) by what I'd call abductive logic. But the collected, correlated knowledge can never be complete. So there's a mystery in why we make ourselves miserable hankering after completeness, when it is unobtainable. AI is simply better at amassing data and doing correlations, hence making it better at leveraging those to perform complex tasks. But AI cannot produce anything new. Only the human is open to the void.

Derrida said in The Animal That Therefore I Am that the human is the animal that feels shame. I connected that thought with Liogier's point about the human feeling that something is missing. We are embarrassed that we can't know everything. We feel it.

[portiagestos]

Desperately awaiting the Q&A session. I have been thinking about this video ever since I watched it.

[Jamesrwatsonx]

This perspective on life is the most profound I’ve encountered. I do have one reservation, though. It’s not about weakness or complexity, complexity requires the concept of information or division to even exist. Rather, it’s about the innate drive to follow through and discover more of our environment. Just as animals explore within the limits of their capabilities, humans have a much broader range of environments, much of which remains unexplored, like the electromagnetic spectrum.

Science, thought, and reductionism tend to confine us when our true self is still exploring its vast domain. So instead of viewing it as a weakness, it’s more of an inherent desire to explore, perhaps even a destiny. Unfortunately, our tendency to focus on parts rather than the whole delays our progress. This need to explore is vast because there’s so much to uncover.

If we could collaborate more, without being confined by thoughts or the belief that knowledge is superior, we’d be much more effective in exploring our domain. Together, we could accelerate our progress and move on to the next step, the universe beyond, the same one we find within.

Amazing mind this man is indeed.

[ShireTasker]

Best presentation on this channel since before and after Hoffmans. Wolfram for the trifecta.

[ingenuity]

I totally agree with Raphael. He got it RIGHT! 💯