The Waco Massacre - Forgotten History

Most people around the world had never heard of the “Branch Davidians” led by the controversial self-proclaimed prophet David Koresh until the beginning of a 51 day siege at their 77-acre Mount Carmel compound where 130 members had resided. Hosted by Colin D. Heaton. Forgotten History is a 10th Legion Pictures Production.
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People Magazine
Spin Magazine
The Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
The Washington Times
The New York Post
Time Magazine
Waco Tribune-Herald
Documentary “Inside Waco”
Documentary Waco: The Rules of Engagement
Anthony, D. and T. Robbins. "Religious totalism, exemplary dualism and the Waco tragedy." In Robbins and Palmer 1997.
Thibodeau, David and Leon Whiteson. A Place Called Waco: A Survivor's Story (New York: PublicAffairs, 1999).
Kopel, David B. and Paul H. Blackman. No More Wacos: What's Wrong With Federal Law Enforcement and How to Fix It (Amherst, New York: Prometheus Books, 1997).
Wright, Stuart A. (ed.). Armageddon in Waco: Critical Perspectives on the Branch Davidian Conflict (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1995).
Moore, Carol. The Davidian Massacre: Disturbing Questions About Waco That Must Be Answered (Virginia: Gun Owners Foundation, 1995).

[dfb]

Forgetting History is one thing, never learning from it is another.

[calebbearup]

One of the few moments in our nations history that will forever be cemented in my mind

[darin]

This is just another example of our government preferring strong arm tactics and displays of force over safe and effective smart alternatives. David Koresh, as reported, regularly left the compound and went jogging. He could have been easily arrested without incident. Then with their leader gone, there would have been a much better chance of avoiding violence. In fact, they could have probably made a deal with Koresh in exchange for his cooperation including calling on his followers to cooperate. By needlessly putting innocent children and others in danger, they demonstrated how little they care about protecting the innocent. All they care about is protecting their power. This attack was nothing more than a demonstration of force intended to intimidate the general public.

[davidtravis]

I worked in Waco a few years after the event. Several locals all told me that Koresh was in town on weekends playing music in bars and selling baked goods on the sidewalk. The local police knew him and could have picked him up without a fuss! Totally unnecessary to kill all those innocent people. Big brother at its best!

[MarkMcCummins]

“Koresh asked to speak to ATF Agent Gutierrez. Gutierrez refused to speak to him.” That says it all.

[aleksander]

Watching a documentary one of the federal agents interviewed was very eager for a fight. He didn't seem to know he was supposed to be a cop and not a soldier in a declared war. Disturbing.

[DaveMustang]

I was 19 when this happened. Between this and Ruby Ridge, I finished learning to never blindly trust the government. In both instances, no one needed to die. However, the suits in DC thought they knew best. That almost always ends in disaster for the average citizen. Nothing much has changed, really. Especially if you're paying attention to the type of people the Feds are going after today. The Constitution seems to be a hindrance instead of guidance for them.

[nukeblue]

Thanks Colin. Along w/Ruby Ridge and other events by 3 letter agencies, there is unaccountability and unanswered questions.

[thomassmestead]

I haven't forgotten Waco, nor have I forgotten Ruby Ridge.

[rescuecaptainbob]

I was there as a fire fighter and one thing about this that always pissed me off on these Documentaries is the FACT that the ATF held the fire fighters and Fire Departments they had "Staged" on scene at gun point refusing to let us go do our job on the guise of "it's for your safety" how many lives could have been saved if we were allowed to do our

[mernyr]

I’ve read multiple accounts on the Waco siege and most accounts claim that the ATF had multiple chances to grab Karesh prior to any of the events of the siege happened. That in mind, the ATF could’ve have prevented such events and saved the lives of dozens of people. The fact the ATF held off only proves to me that they wanted blood and wanted to make a show of things to help set an example for anyone else who’d dare to oppose them.

[Mr_Drew_Magoo]

This was an abysmal tragedy. I was 8 years old when I witnessed the horrific conclusion of this event on cable news and I'll never forget how much it scared me. The sight of armored vehicles driving into a structure with children inside it is sickening.

[SirKnight]

I was at several of those gun shows. The trigger assemblies later claimed to have been on the Branch Davidians' weapons were bought legally and the assembly packages had the official stamp of the BATF&E.

[SILOPshuvambanerjee]

ATF was so proud of their achievement that they took photos with the burnt dead bodies including children.

[rmls]

As a retired street cop (serving 1989-2014), the first thing we would have done in this situation is have Fire and Ambulance stage on the scene, and remain there until it was resolved...you also don't surround and "raid" a structure with possibly armed subjects in broad daylight...they could have isolated and arrested Koresh in town on multiple times a month...Just ask Randy Weaver about the competence of the federal government.

[cevgunnerF]

I remember the television coverage, and constantly explaining to people at work that those "tanks" were Combat Engineer Vehicles, and they do NOT have outside firefighting equipment. Floored a few people that the gun tube has a 6 1/2" bore diameter, and you can fire teargas from inside the turret through the main gun bore, while being safe from return fire.
The Ferret tear gas rounds, when fired into a burning building, produce a toxic cyanide gas as a byproduct of the smoke being catalysed by the fire.
One way or another, Janet Reno was going to make an example of those people. The whole Clinton administration was anti-gun, Reno was worse then, than Merrick Garland is today, and they were pushing back on a lot of Constitutional rights.

[tacticalmattfoley]

Everyone involved in the Rudy Ridge tragedy should have been fired and escorted out of FBI offices by security at the very least. Horiuchi should have NEVER been allowed in the field again after Ruby Ridge. His service rifle was found to have been re-barreled immediately after the Waco siege.

[GruntProof]

The gov, doing what the gov does best

[w.knudsen]

I had two friends at Waco from different agencies. After things started escalating, one of them informed her supervisor that she either gets resigned out of there or accepted her resignation, retroactively.

[terminalcreature]

There's a video recording of ATF playing the sounds of horses and rabbits being violently killed on loudspeakers during the night to keep them from being able to sleep as a form of psychological warfare.

That alone was an absurd overstep in the RoE.