New Celestion Triple Cone F12M-150 FRLR speaker

Here we have the brand new Celestion Triple Cone (F12M-150) speaker... Celestion call this Full Range Live Response, (along with the F12-X200).... in short it is supposed to allow modelling amps to sound that bit more realistic, that bit more musical than a lot of FRFR setups. I have to say we were really surprised by this speaker, it is a really good price and actually filled in a few of the gaps that a lot of existing FRFR speakers seem to have.

I appreciate that this speaker isn't really designed to be mic'd, it is designed to allow speaker and mic emulation but other than playing it really loud, there isn't another way of allowing you all to hear approximately some of what it can do.

There will be more videos to come and but I hope this gives a little insight in to what it can do.

Gear list:
Paul Reed Smith Mira S2
Fender Eric Johnson Stratocaster
Line 6 HX Stomp
Marshall EL34 100/100 Power amp
Zilla Compact 1x12
Tul G12 Microphone
Beyerdynamic M160 Microphone

[ZillaCabs]

A quick note here, this is an FRLR speaker and as such isn't really supposed to be mic'd, but we did it anyway to try and give a close(ish) approximation to what the speaker does. Also, some of the distorted sounds I think are of a 5150, which in itself can have quite a distinctive sound. I wasn't always a huge fan of the 5150 (although I am a recent convert), in the room the Triple Cone actually sounded pretty close.

[PaulGrieselhuber]

channel is getting better and better. great playing btw!

[zAvAvAz]

6:31 metal 7:06 some rhythmic testing

[atlaspath]

One of the best video since you have clean and overdrive tones on display

[claudevieaul]

Thanks for all the info - first time I've heard of speakers specifically created for simulators and IR users.

I believe however that I'll stick with my lovely tube amps running through a cab with 2 Celestions: a Vintage 30 and a beautifully warm 70's Greenback.

But I learned something new today - so there's that 😀🙏

[HeirApparent]

Seems like the natural mic to use for representing an FRFR or FRLR speaker in a video would be a measurement mic, something as simple as the Behringer ECM8000 from 10' away at real world band rehearsal volume, or possibly a PZM sitting in the room (???)

[NSRider]

That last tone was awesome! Really cool stuff with these speakers :). Great playing!

[CelestionUK]

Great demo, Joe. Did you personally get any of the feeling of playing through a regular guitar speaker when you did this?

[rolandmengedoth]

Sounds amazing, even on my Smartphone.

[markblagdon]

Would to hear this compared with the F12-x200 in a range of cab styles - a standard closed back 1x12 and your FRFR cab. I’ve got a F12-x200 that I’m looking to buy a cab for.

[Glensully]

I have an very old crate solid state combo. Thinking of swapping the crap speaker to this and using it with my helix. What do you think?

[wakjob]

Modeling speaker shootout time??? ;-)
P.S. Your playing is fantastic!

[ericallenraymond]

There are a few questions that most people have:
- Does it feel like an Amp in the Room (philosophical differences aside)?
- Can you run a variety of cabs IR's through it and they sound good?
- Can you run a variety of cabs IR's through it and they sound accurate ... or match FOH?
- Do you need to tweak presets when you used this beyond what you do on a FRFR, PA, etc?

[boddumblues]

I'd like to try a couple of these. My X200s are really good, but the high end takes a lot of tweaking to control on the presets, the highs are definitely there. I've been playing one amp with a X200 for about a year, and I'd say it is warming up really well. So take that in to consideration when you get them new. I check my presets on a set of Dynaudio LYD 48 (Helix floor). And the idea is to match that in a combo form. The high end can follow, no problem. But I don't think it's necessary in the combos, but the FOH still need the full range, so maybe the Triple cones will be plenty... FWIW

[paulroberts]

yes just ordered my fatbaby 1x12 150w celestion redback, ,

[javierloperena]

my 10 inch headrush frfr speaker is broke, so i am looking for the best sounding speaker for replace the broke one

[brucedickinson]

This channel is perfect, what happened? no more videos in 2 years, all is ok?

[JoeHarvatt]

I just noticed I called it the Celestion Triple Crown in the video. Must’ve been optimistically thinking about the rugby. 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Really impressed with this speaker.

[johnnytopshot]

This is the first time I have heard a mic'd frfr cab sound anything like a real guitar cab, sounds so much better than the F12-X200 demo you did.
How does it feel and sound in the room compared to a real cab, and the F12-X200?
P.s. Also hoping Pivac can get the boys playing again, but then again I'm also hoping you are going to send me one of your cabs on long term (30 years) trial 😉

[Kreln]

*1:10**... The two extra cones inside the main cone are not, **_"Tweeters..."_** They are called, **_"Whizzer Cones..."_*