If every action is predestined, how can free will exist? Javed Ahmad Ghamidi

تقدیر میں سب کچھ طے ہے تو پھر انسانی اختیار کیسا؟
جاوید احمد غامدی

If every action is predestined, how can free will exist?
Javed Ahmad Ghamidi
A founder president of Al-Mawrid.
Ghamidi Centre of Islamic Communication
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[hammaadshahid]

every religious man very cleverly changes the question from predestination to knowledge of God. No one has yet given a complete satisfying answer to this

[eraparyana]

Wahhhh Ghamidi sb, you always change everything ...My mentor ...Stay hundred of years

[ahadone]

تقدیر میں سب کچھ طے ہے
اور
اس طے شدہ میں سے منتخب کرنا ہی انسان کا اختیار ہے۔

[syedqammarmohammad]

We need to define exactly what knowledge is. We oftenly says that Allah has knowledge of each and every thing including future results of people. Knowledge is the knowing of each and every thing in present circumstances or the results of future of a certain process which follows certain fixed and unchanging rules. As humans are free in their actions and thoughts, so not knowing exactly each and every detail of these actions is not same as having no knowledge.

[yunasburney]

* want to free from religious hunters, then listen to Suchwala ji . You be glad you did.*

[ibrahimrasheed]

Peshay ko ikhtear kernay men bhy insan khud mukhtaar hay . Her aadmy Kuchh dunyavy moaamlaat men maslan neky aor bady ka rasstah ikhtear kernay men. Emaan lanay aor nah lanay men, kissy Kay Sath zulm ziadty ya hamderdy men, kissy ko kuchh denay ya chheen lenay men aor bohut say deger amoor men bhy ba ikhtear hay .aor kuchh men majboor e mehz hay woh apny merzy say kissy khass gher men, kissy khass zamanay men, kissy pasandedah suret men apny pedaaish per ikhtear nahen rakhta .Apny zindgy aor moat per, moat kee jagah aor waqat per, aor moat kessy aor kesay halaat men ho iss per bhy aadmy ka ikhtear nahen . Ussky sehat kee hadood aor perhez bhy ussay mahloom hen lekan phir bhy bemaar perr jata hay aor shifa usskay bus men nahen. woh Allah Kareem Kay bus men hay. Allah nah Chahay to Barray say Barra Tabeeb bhy kuchh nah ker sakay, aor ager Chahay to kissy mahmoly tonay say hee shifa ho jaey . Men nay aek mahir doctor say sawal kea, keh aap Kay hathon logon ko shifa Milty hay, aap log kion hamaray jitnay hee umer guzar ker mer jatay hen? Koi doctor bataow Jo 200, 250 Saal jee ker Mera ho ? Doctor sahib Kay pass isska koi jawaab nahen tha . Barish bhy Allah Kareem bersata hay . Kal koi kia karega sirf Allah ko mahloom hay, Insan Kal ka programme bana ker sota hay, subeh uthna naseeb nahen hota . Aor bhy aesay kaam hen Jo Sirf Allah Kareem ka ikhtear hay Maan Kay rehm men Jo khon ka lothrra hay, woh lerrka ho ga ya larrky . Kitna arsah maan Kay paet men rahega .Raat sor fin, Dhoop aor chaon, mosmon kee tabdely, Aor uss tabdeky kee nisbet say anaaj aor phalon kee pedawar Kia insan ker kawesh hay ? Kawrsh hay to sek mehdod daeray men Yehny, (Mali da kam pani dena tay bher bher mushkan paway.Khaliq da kam phal phull lana, laway ya nah laway ) Aor Jo koi insan ko bilkul hee be, ikhtear samajhta hay woh sarehan Nabion aor kitabon kee aamed neky aor bady kee pehchan aor Yomul hisaab Aor Jannet Aor Jahannem ka inkaar kerta hay . Ager insan apnay ahmaal men azaad nahen to yeh Sara khael kiss lieay

[AcademicLessons]

Then in my opinion, it should not be revealed to us that Taqdeer is already written.

[sadiqhussain]

انسان اللہ کا بنایا روبوٹ ھے اسکی ساری فیڈنگ اللہ کی مرضی سے ھے اللہ کی ٹیکنالوجی کا کمال اسکا اختیار بھی اللہ کی مرضی ھے مگر انسان کی اپنی کوشش سے
دیکھنے۔سننے۔کہنے۔پڑھنے میں یہ سبکچھ ساٸنس لگتا ھے ھاں یہ ھی ساٸنس ھے

[mujahidrasul]

Once in your comments you said a man is free to choose a partner to marry that it is not decided by ALLAH.if we are unable to have a choice for our parents it is decided by ALLAH so it is proved that marrriages are decided by ALLAH but celebrated by us.Your comments please.

[sudhan]

Seems he did not consult Quran ever - Quran 33:72 in conjunction with 17:13-14. Had he done it he would have known we do and choose all aspects of our lives on this planet before our creation as human. We write our destiny through our actions and hence deserve hell or heaven - God is not under test - we are!

[fazalkhaliq]

میں نے ایک دیوبند مسلک کے مدرسہ سے پڑھا ھے اور اب میں جناب جاوید احمد غامدی کی تحقیقات میں مگن ہو اور بہت ہی متاثر ہوں تقریباً تمام مسائل میں ۔۔۔لیکن صرف یہ ایک مسئلہ تقدیر کا ھے جو میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ غامدی صاحب یہاں یقینا غلطی پر ھے اور دل میں خواہش بھی ھے کہ کہ جناب جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب سے خود یا کم از کم حسن الیاس سے اس بارے میں گفتگو کرو تو یہ ان کی بڑی نوازش ہوگی

[samiamanullah]

Ghamdi sahib just playing with the words...simple question but no answer

[shabbirAhmed-momo]

Yh sb bemqsd h ghamdi sb kin batoo m parh gei h quran Allah n sirf 4 hukm h insan ko insan se azdi insaf amn yh jis socirty m hoga khushali ho hi in k elwa sb fazool aj jal to molvion n ha masla ka hal wazeefa hi bna dia bray bary alm b im batoo pr baqi jo ebdt h eo yh 4 mqasd ko hasil kry ka zreea h

[pakistani]

Bhut doctor judge ka kaam karte hain, engineer molvi ban jaate hain

[ijazawan]

I have heard ghamdi already on this topic and he always talks non sense
1_religion on one hand says everything is predestined means no free will. Some verses seem to be for free will.
2_when everything is decided and Allah knows future means All the future things will happen in specific ways that Allah knows. So how can ghamdi saying that Allah's knowledge shall not affect a man's choice?
3- it's not always that a person makes excuses for his own actions rather he is mighty be really concerned about something(like free will issue)
4-ghamdi trying to diverting the situation and suggesting focus on your personality first and not God
5_you probably know that on this issue of free will many scholars are in trouble internally and externally (by Christianity Hinduism etc)
6_ I saw a debate of gamdi with Awais Iqbal ex Muslim on this issue then also ghamdi beat about the bush
No scholar can explain this even they it's beyond our understanding. It's their nightmare

[ixmix]

With thousands apologies
but Such idiocy, ... i think u don't knw wat Free will is and how it demonstrates...
the first part of answer is hypocritical, means that those things even don't need any free will, then yu start ranting : selling that old wine again n again n again.
It's not an answer of Free will but ur self approach and imaginations...neither scientifically correct nor religiously certified.