Nine Inch Nails: Trent Reznor's Nasty Feud with Marilyn Manson

Nine Inch Nails Leader Trent Reznor feud with Marilyn Manson

0:00 - Trent Reznor's Early Life
1:36 - Reznor Meets Manson
3:25 - Reznor Works With Manson
8:10 - Reznor Reunites With Manson
9:47 - Feud Escalates

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It’s hard to believe that Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor had a decades long ffeud considering how they used to work together and shared similar traits. Today lets explore the feud between the pair.

Trent Reznor had an early aptitude for music playing piano age the age of 12 with his grandfather telling people magazine in 1995 "[Reznor] was a good kid [...] a Boy Scout who loved to skateboard, build model planes, and play the piano. Music was his life, from the time he was a wee boy. He was so gifted."

Growing up in Pennsylvania, Reznor found excitement through music, horror movies and television shows to escape the boredom of small town life. It would be music that allowed himself to reinvent himself later in his life. He would play jazz was in the marching band and was part of the drama club in high school playing Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar. A strange coincidence that he’d work with Marilyn Manson’s on his Antichrist Superstar album years later.

Reznor would end up moving to Cleveland Ohio in 1985, when he was 23 and worked as a janitor and assistant engineer in a local studio. During his days off he was allowed to record material in the studio and that would result in Nine Inch Nails debut record 1989’s Pretty Hate Machine. The album was a success going gold. Reznor’s follow up 1992’s EP broken went in a heavier direction and it resulted in a prolonged legal battle with his label TVT Records over creative control over Nine Inch Nails sound. Reznor eventually signed with major label interscope.

Reznor would meet Marilyn Manson around 1989 when Manson interviewed Reznor while he worked as a journalist for a south florida publication called the 25th parallel. They would meet at a club in Florida and according to Manson’s biography Reznor wasn’t very friendly initially as he was moping in the corner but as they chatted things seemed to warm up. Manson would tell Guitar World in 1992 "Trent and I met around the same time that Marilyn Manson was formed,". "We became friends. We had a lot in common."

By the early 90’s they would meet again when Manson’s band the Spooky Kids were opening for Nine inch nails at a club in Florida. . Manson by his own admission was tripping on acid and went to reznor asking him for feedback on the band’s performance. Reznor hadn’t watched the show, but took a tape from Manson of his band. Reznor and Manson would end up collaborating on the video for the song ‘gave up’ from the Nine Inch Nails EP Broken. There would be three different versions of the video for the song with one version featuring footage of Manson recording the song with the band

It was around this time that Reznor had formed his own label named Nothing Records under Interscope & it wasn’t too long after that Manson would end up hearing from Reznor’s manager asking for him to send him more material. Manson would be the first artist Reznor signed to his new label. By this point in time Reznor was working on nine inch nails second LP The Downward Spiral at 10050 Cielo (see ello) Drive. It was the same home that actress sharon tate was murdered in by followers of cult leader Charles Manson.
Manson soon began work on his first album for nothing records initially titled the manson family album. Originally linked to the project would be producer Roli Massoman who had worked with the Swans. But after several months of work in the studio over the summer of 1993 Manson wasn’t happy with the results. He felt that the recordings were too polished and didn’t capture the energy of the band’s live shows. By October of 1993 Trent Reznor stepped in the producer chair and brought in some of his session players from Nine Inch Nails to finish up the recording over a 2 month period with Manson telling the Miami new Times "We spent seven weeks redoing, fixing, sometimes starting from scratch. That was our band's first experience in a real studio on a project this big. We didn't kno

[rnrtruestories]

Whose side do you take? Trent Reznor or Marilyn Manson?

[lizd.]

Reznor now scoring Disney films was something I never would have guessed back when I was going through my moody teen phase back in the mid 90s

[johnskilling]

My grandparents lived in a town about 25 miles or so from where Trent grew up. I was a huge fan so when I was 12 my grandma drove me about 30-40 minutes up to Trent’s high school. I walked in the lobby and asked some admin if they knew if Trent went there. Most of them had no idea who or what Nine Inch Nails was. But one lady who did pulled a couple yearbooks from the early 80’s to let me check. Sure enough, there was Trent’s senior picture. They made me a xerox copy for a souvenir. Nice folks, and Grammie was the best.

[DMNQUN]

"Look- I'm not going to say Limp Bizket sucks, ya know? You know it, I know it and I'm not gonna say it." -TR. That line makes me laugh every time.

[wendynerd]

Three of my favorite Trent Reznor stories, all of which are kind of sweet.

1) When he was living in the Tate house, Tori Amos was getting really, really worried about how skinny he was getting, so she showed up on his doorstep with bags full of groceries all "I'm going to make you some chicken." Well, here's the thing: Tori Amos knows how to make chicken, but not in a haunted house/with broken kitchen appliances. The oven and stove kept turning off and on and things just kept going wrong. Finally they just had to go out and get something to eat. He was apparently watching the entire time, thoroughly amused.

2) Sharon Tate's sister came to visit him in the Tate House and told him that she felt him recording an album there was exploitative and hurtful. So he moved out.

3) His house in New Orleans (I saw it when I went on a tour of the French Quarter and Garden districts. I also saw Anne Rice's house. Hers was way more goth and literally had skulls carved into all the ironwork). He moved in on the same block as this congresswoman who was, uh, not too thrilled at the idea of having the guy who wrote "Closer" living on her street. She was certain that him living there would turn the neighborhood into a Dethklok concert and that the district would never get any peace. She got the HOA involved and everything. Well, one day she goes to Reznor's house while he is having some renovations done and she is ready to be all "You ain't going to be blasting your scary rock and roll all over this block, Mr. Rockstar!" - only to find out that the renovation work he was having done was to sound-proof most of the house so that the neighbors wouldn't be disturbed. They ended up becoming friends and walked their dogs together.

I love stories like those.

[SamantherPanther]

Manson being butthurt over being called a McDonald's burger is so funny

[incubustimelord]

The moral of the story: "We need to stop doing drugs." - Trent Reznor (to Marilyn Manson)

[paulallen-]

I met Trent in the early 2000’s in NYC. Wound up talking with him for like 20 minutes. He was very friendly and down to earth.

[williamherd]

Trent 100% discovered Marilyn Manson. Not saying Manson would never have made it, but he certainly owes Trent a lot

[beezysbeatz]

I'm glad Trent came out on top. That's what talent and class gets you.

[vxxiii]

Let's not forget Trent has two Oscars already. Dude is mega talented

[baileymoran]

I loved this feud when I was a teenager. Now all I can think is ‘wow... Reznor really should have stopped giving Manson chances, and Manson should have actually stopped doing drugs.’ I may not be wealthy and famous, but I avoided a lot of drama, drug addiction, Courtney Love, and fast food insults.

[uverpro]

After Nirvana and grunge, this was the rock scene of late 90s. NIN, Manson, White Zombie… it was a very special time and place for hard rock and metal. I was a little too young to fully enjoy it, but better believe I appreciate it. This scene at the time will forever be linked to what rock means to me.

[Mike-csft]

Also Trent as had a good acting career as Owen Wilson such a talented guy

[samorozco]

This friendship reminds me of my past. Having a friend that you did everything with, which is mostly getting into trouble, then you graduate from HS, and it's time to grow up, get a job, be responsible, while your friend wants none of that. You just have to be away from this friend before he drags you down with him. Trent grew up, got married, had a great career without much of the drama. Manson also has had a great career, but he's also been in and out of trouble with the law, taken to court many times, lost his band, and now he's really in trouble due to all of these women claiming he did stuff to them.

[TheReal_Pim_Tool]

TR: “We need to quit doing drugs.”
MM: Ok, i quit doing drugs.”
TR : “NERD!”

[ashlandstationmusic]

Hearing him describe Trent as a jock is funny

[BasementPepperoni]

I will never forget seeing Manson on that show "Talking Dead" on AMC like 8 or 10 years ago. It was the first time that I had seen him in almost 15 or 20 years.
Dude gained a bunch of weight, which is understandable. Once you get into your 40's you tend to gain weight.
But also how out of his mind on drugs he was. He wouldn't STFU and just kept going on and on and on and on, and you could tell everyone on the show was starting to get weirded out and uncomfortable.

ANYWAYS, when I was watching some of the JD/AH trial, and JD was asked about taking drugs with Manson. He said "I gave Marylin a pill, talking."
I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that, hahaha

[tomasford]

My main takeaway: Trent Reznor was Judas in a high school production of Jesus Christ Superstar

[InBuffalo]

I’ve seen NIN 7 Times and manson 2x and I can tell you the real talent here is reznor