Collision With E-Scooter | Wipeout | Caught on the Cycliq Fly12

We're in the strange early adoption phase of e-transport using the same carriageways as non e-transport modalities, and it's becoming dangerous for all involved. An interesting time in personal transport history. Legislation incoming.

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[unsafevelocities]

TL;DR: Fix the sight-lines of the junction rather than lazily blaming this on e-scooters.

This has nothing to do with it being an e-scooter -- the scooter rider entered the junction no faster than the e-bike cyclist before him. This is actually a teething issue from starting to create a proper cycle route network in a country where people aren't used to giving way at path junctions with higher volumes of cycle traffic. The e-scooter rider approached the junction assuming he wouldn't have to stop with a predictable result. The cam cyclist, although they do have priority, could have done much more to avoid the collision. They should have been switched on to the junction when (at least) two path users entered moments before.

The real culprit here is the person who signed off on the atrocious sight-lines at that junction. Finding it on Google Maps, the path forms a Y-junction which is like a right-angle triangle and this is the main issue. The junction should be reworked into a T-junction placing the emerging cyclists in the centre of the gap between the retaining walls for the best sight-lines. The retaining wall on the east side of the junction (the camera rider approaches from the east) was designed poorly, but fixing that now is expensive. If possible the retaining wall could be moved back on the east side like it is on the west side. Angled (forgiving) kerbs should be added to discourage desire lines (shortcuts) forming and these should have a large radius to create a wide junction mouth for easy corning.

[toekabuizer]

There were not one but TWO warning signs coming out of the same place where the third scooter came out of. He was going very slow, and in the shadow you can see that he was in a bit of a relaxed posture on the bike. His hand was on the right (presumably) rear brake, which does close to nothing when you're trying to stop quickly. Even though there were two warning signs that someone could come from the left, he reacted really poorly to the scooter. The scooter was visible for the camera for two full seconds before impact, and the scooter wasn't going significantly towards the cyclist. His hands were right next to the brake when the scooter's head was visible, and even when you account for one full second of reaction time, he still would've had a full second to come to a stop or significantly reduce his speed to the point that there would be virtually no damage, maybe only a tip-over if he couldn't unclip in time. However, he did slow down a bit, but not enough to prevent a quite hard fall, which looks like it might've even been hard enough for the cyclist to break his wrist and/or helmet, and I doubt the elderly man was completely unhurt. While according to the law the e-scooter rider was at fault, the cyclist was so inatentive, that he was only one mistake from someone else away from an accident. Humans aren't perfect and everybody makes many mistakes every day. If you can't cover simple and in this case predictable mistakes from others reliably, you're going to have an accident sooner rather than later. A good cyclist is not a cyclist who doesn't make mistakes, a good cyclist is a cyclist who learns from his own and from other's mistakes.

[Hypersonicbiker]

Don't ride fast at bike lines of that. Only ride fast at open and speed bike lines. Be careful.

[tikbrobro]

I don't think the speed was fast. The man came out suddenly and that was hard to stop