🌑 ANCIENT MYSTERY TOOL CONFIRMED 😱 ROMAN DODECAHEDRONS & ICOSAHEDRONS

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I find it amusing that you are so sure of the use of this item while having no understanding of how textiles work. This has been a theory for years and the fiber arts and textile community discussed it in length several years ago. A bunch of people did printed models and tested making gloves on them. It doesn't make sense. Yes you can use the nubs to wrap  the yarn and use it like a tiny knitting loom. It makes a shit fabric. You have to use real thin yarn and the stitches are spread apart. The resulting fabric is not useful in protecting your fingers from cold or wear of any kind. Also you could not knit the hand portion of a glove on one. You would have to take the little ball and spend far more time making shitty 'fingers' and still have to take the loops onto actual knitting needles to knit the hand.
It doesn't make sense. Someone who knows how to knit can make gloves far far faster than the tedium of what you explain. Also a needle would not be used for loom knitting. Which as far as I know didn't exist until circular sock machines, which is believed to have been invented in 1563 in England. Even then new technology takes a while to spread and go into common use and it wasn't common at all until right before others figured out how to take the idea and turn it into factory fast making items.

girlwalkswithgoats
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You could have told us this in about 5 minutes if you hadn't repeated the same bits of information again and again

marioncawley
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The dodecahedrons are in fact a Tessera Arca (Knuckle Box ring sizer) and were used specifically to measure the fingers (knuckle) in order to size rings that were made from coins . Back in the day if you wanted a ring made from precious metal the easiest way to do this was to use an old coin. However this practise of destroying legal tender was just as illegal back in the day as it is in most countries today so the craftsmen and women who offered this service were usually transitory and highly secretive about their trade. This accounts for the service not being available in the Mediterranean (heart of the) Roman Empire, and generally practised in the North-West of the Empire. As such no dodecahedra have been found outside this region to date.
The client impressed and encouraged by the sheer craftsmanship of the dodecahedron, that was a remarkable feat of engineering skill in those days, would slip their chosen ring ringer or thumb into the 12 available holes of the dodecahedron until the correct fit was ascertained. The craftsman would then place the coin to be used (a 34mm Sestertius) over the hole using the surrounding nodules to hold the coin in position whilst it was scribed from the opposite side (from within the dodecahedron) with the outline of the circle.
The coin could now be removed from the tessera and worked. Firstly a hole would have been drilled and cut in the centre of the coin. in the centre of the coin, almost as wide as the guide mark. The coin would then be placed on a tapered metal spike and hammered with a soft mallet so it folds over until it makes a flat ring. A bit of filing and the ring is finished and fits perfectly.
A skilled technician could thus create a ring whilst his customer waited, in just a couple of hours, and then on receipt of payment disappear into the shadows. Of course there were easier ways to size a ring, they could have used a simple bunch of sample rings, but this would be much more conspicuous and far less alluring than a dodecahedron placed on a dimly lit tavern table, probably with a small candle lit inside to accentuate the object and add to its mysticism and curiosity. The tessera was not just a tool, it was a shop window advertising sign. And of course if the craftsman were caught in possession of a dodecahedron, well the authorities would be totally baffled and have no better idea of its actual use just as we do today.

jonathanfieldhouse
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I belong to south India and in the 1960s I have seen some tribal families walking along the road while spinning thread on the go with these spindles hanging along and spinning. As children, we were quite fascinated by their skill and used to follow them to watch it. I remember the spindles were made of a pointed wooden shaft 6—8 inches tall with its base fixed in the center of a wheel made of sun-baked clay (about 4"). Someone said that they use the thread to make their fishing nets. This was before nylon nets were introduced to our parts of the country. So, the thread–making spindle is not too ancient a tool, and has been in use till recent times.

marioduddu
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The Roman dodecahedron.

You may be correct, but I will submit this as an alternative theory for your consideration. My reasons for not embracing the knitting machine theory are based on the expense of making any Bronze object at that time, the fact that durable Roman work gloves were made from leather and fabric rather than from something that would unravel if a thread broke, that every housewife must have made gloves for the family at the time, that knitting platforms could just as easily be made of wood, that the balls around each hole in the dodecahedron are not convenient for swiping the needle under the thread, and if an individual was manufacturing knitted gloves for profit, then they would have dozens of dodecahedrons in their possession, not just one. But I do not pretend to be omnipotent. Future research may discover a mural showing Romans making gloves with the dodecahedron. If that happens, I will have a good laugh. But in the mean time, on with my alternative theory.

The key to understanding the use of the dodecahedron is the wax residue that has been found inside some of them. Knitting machines do not end up with a wax residue. And the dodecahedron would make a silly candle holder. The purpose of the dodecahedron was to create a wax staff with a very exact diameter.

No one doubts the necessity of powerful families to be able to privately communicate with each other during the violent Roman Empire period.

A recognized method for passing secret messages, at that time, was to take a long narrow strip of parchment and wrap it around a staff. The message would be encoded using a private code like the “Caesar Shift Cipher” and then written from left to right with each character on the succeeding wrap of the parchment. The thickness of the staff used to write the message would have to be the same as the staff used to read the message. Random characters would fill the rest of the parchment spacing using other staffs with a variety of different thicknesses. Knowing which string of characters was the real encoded message would be extremely difficult to determine.

The dodecahedron would be heated in a fire, fished out, and a preselected hole on the dodecahedron would be used to melt an existing wax block to the correct diameter. The newly created wax staff would then be used to identify the correct string of characters to be deciphered. The same staff would be used to encode an answer. Afterward, the wax staff and secret message would be disposed of in the fire. Cleaning the dodecahedron would be accomplished by throwing it in the fire also, only in that case, there might be some wax residue left over. Bronze dodecahedrons would be especially prized because they would not deform from rust.

The owner of the dodecahedron deciphering tool would value it as much as his wealth, since it was indispensable for private communications.

MartinBacSi
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"I'm 100% sure I solved an ancient mystery" That's awesome man, I also came up with the idea of inventing toilets one time I saw one. It was my creation, just like you came up with the answer on your own when you saw that another person already found the answer before. We are very smart you and I.

RmnGnzlz
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You're acting like you've made this incredible discovery no one else thought of, then you mention an "English gentleman" on the internet who thought of it first and made a working model. I'm gonna call you einstein here on out!

ronnyraygunz
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I just saw a video of a lady using one to make amazing jewelry with gold wire. Very intricate braided necklaces and such.

bcboykootenay
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Why make this video without having an artifact and demonstrating how it worked?

harrydecker
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I was taught many fiber arts when I was very young. I can see some advantages to making gloves with this contraption as all five fingers could be created together. On the other hand, the size of the holes would not determine the size of the finger because the knobs would determine the diameter via tension, of the finished product. But as suggested, the sizes of holes could indicate, start here...etc.

There are passing references to similar items having been found in Asia, supposedly on the Silk Road, but I cannot find any images or further information. I think some of the Roman legions in Gaul, Germania, etc. transferred in from "the east", I assume Anatolia.

I think it is extremely interesting that these dodecahedrons are found primarily in the colder areas of Western Europe.

Apparently the history of knitting is poorly understood. The skill which probably predated actual knitting was naelbinding, something which I would describe as a weaving technique. I believe for naelbinding, the widely spaced nubs on the dodecahedrons would be valuable to give a looser tension and a stretchier fabric.

Since the Silk Road was mentioned in some information, it came to my mind that the holes in these objects could be used to judge quality of silk fabric. When I was a child, women had large, silk head scarves. My mother showed me how a corner of one of these scarves could be threaded into a finger ring, pulled, and all of the scarf would pass through the ring. It was amazing. It is also not possible to do this with other fabrics. If a silk fabric was less than 100% silk, this would probably not work. Could varying sizes of holes be used to rate the purity or workmanship of silk fabric? Maybe.

It is interesting that these items are found in a limited geographical area, therefore it comes to mind that they may have been specifically needed for something in cooler climates, or they were made by regional crafts-people. Whatever the background, apparently the technology was not superior enough for the Romans to perpetuate the knowledge/use and transport it throughout the empire. I suggest these were not Roman inventions, but something used by people indigenous to where they were found.

annalisette
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That thing would make for some great trebuchet ammo. The wax could hold a flammable agent, maybe even a liquid core. The balls on the vertices would sheer on impact sending them flying like a frag grenade, the holes give a trajectory for the flaming liquid.

Just a thought

justinanderson
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there's really no mystery at all. the obfuscation is deliberate. we really know that ancient societies were no different than how we are now, we just exoticise them for two reason: to give hacks stuff to write about, and also to obscure how things have never changed and we as adult now have to pretend as if corporations are immortal persons regardless of your "freedom of religion" no different than they did back then. we've always lived under the same pantbeistic system that we sacrifice to in order to bring their "visions" I. e. theos forth.

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Gloves? No no no no no! Ipso facto, they convey motion. All centres do. Why are the holes of varying sizes? Because they were meant to support differing loads. They prove that the ancients knew how to create structural grids that had some inner mobility - that is why they are cracked, from stress. The pegs were used to secure the dodecahedron (with sinew) to a fitting created for the rod going in any of the eleven faces. I say eleven because the twelfth was probably used to lift it off the ground and to let gravity and design create equilibrium. All amplitude will traverse relevant centres. You’re welcome 👻

maxmudita
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in a pinch, you can beat the shite out of someone with it.

eboneezeradams
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0:08 No, you didnt solve this, Martin did. "Im 100% certain that Martin solved the ancient mystery and here is his video /watch?v=poGapxsanaI" would have been hyper fair, hyper accurate, hyper- right- action- rising- from- spiritual -wisdom and 100% truthful. But you dont do that, do you? You just take other peoples stuff and present them as your own ideas.
It would have been fair to ATLEAST put the link to Martins video in the description but you didnt want to do that did you. That would have taken people to his channel so they could see how awesome thinking he did with this discovery. His discovery, NOT YOURS! Yeah, I know you say his name couple of times BUT YOU START THE VIDEO WITH "I SOLVED AN ANCIENT MYSTERY". Is it solving if you find an random video and take the information? No, its leeching! Everything you have is discovery and thinking of REALLY great and original thinkers. You just take credit. From buddhism and iconography and EVERYTHING you present to be expert and discoverer is other peoples minds work.

Leech!

mamuse
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The wax inside may have been for a stick or small rod to insert inside to keep it stable and to give easier workability, I was taught crochet by my grandmother and the tool used looked on some level just like what you’ve shown but the rod or stick was attached because you would hold it in one hand and work the stitch with the other. Some I vaguely remember having metal pins sticking out and some were made of wood. It looks very similar.

lkdppkd
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Very cool mentation on these strange artifacts! I do think they could have been cast if they were as important for the people using them as you say. The easiest way to tell if they were cast is a part where a slug was cut off. Modern mold casting would have a part line but, it is known that in roman times they had knowledge about lost wax casting. Lost wax is only used today for casts with a very high level of detail that require suction to pull the metal through the mold. Imho erring on the side that people from history are not as simplistic as most historians would have you believe is a safe bet. This was fun to ponder, Take care!

s-tonelab
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My wife is excited to hear this. I've been arguing that these were photonic/phononic manipulation devices using toroidal field geometry and dynamics.

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I am your 200, 000th subscription. Congratulations.

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Ken, wow. Blood just shot out of my daughters eyes. Brace yourself for a comment from one of my daughters. She can shear a sheep and have a fine finished piece of clothing in ten days. A very nice pair of gloves in four to five hours... I often use an inch and a quarter wrench as a hammer, but it's not a hammer. Love sharing your videos, don't stop.

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