Are There Alien Artifacts Orbiting Earth? w/ Beatriz Villarroel

Are these Lurkers? Researcher Beatriz Villarroel found bright, shiny, possibly flat or complex shaped objects that were in geo-synchronous orbit with Earth in the early 50's. Well before Sputnik or any other attempted satellites. Also, three of the objects travel in a straight line.

We live in a world where we are constantly observing ourselves from orbit. We don’t even think twice about the satellite surveillance of our world because it’s us doing it. But imagine if we were being watched by someone else, far before the dawn of the space age by some unknown agent. More, think of a scenario where it was watching us, and we were inadvertently with our astronomical photographic plates watching it as well.

In 1957 the Soviet Union launched humanity’s first orbital satellite, Sputnik 1 ushering in the age of telecommunications and satellites of all flavors from weather to espionage. But our ability to monitor the skies photographically stretches decades before the advent of human space travel, leaving us with an enormous collection of astronomical survey plates to study. Within these plates, previous to 1957, you shouldn’t expect to find anything transient presenting itself as a satellite since we didn’t have them yet.

But that’s apparently not the case. In a photographic plate dating from 1950 my guest today has identified a transient phenomenon that not only appears like a satellite would, but actually tracks across the plate exactly as you would expect a satellite in orbit of earth would do. Now there have been conspiracy theories floating around on the internet such as the Black Knight regarding satellites previous to the space age, but these are urban legends that conflate different sources, usually coupled with a photograph of a very human made thermal blanket in orbit. But there is a kernel of something here, there was one such mention of the possibility of artificial satellites of unknown origin before the space age began was made by Major Donald Keyhoe, a prominent figure in the early days of UFOlogy, reporting that the US government was aware of two such satellites. If there was any truth to that report is unknown, but it’s interesting nonetheless.

Adding to this mystery, there are other obscure oddities hidden within the history of science that may deepen this mystery. One of these are the mysterious signals Nikola Tesla reported picking up that he thought were of alien origin, though in reality it could just as easily been pulsars or any of the other myriad of natural radio sources that were unknown in his day. But there are also the case of Long Delayed Echoes in radio, where transmissions repeat back to the transmitter often seconds afterward as an echo. Echoes in Radio are not uncommon, the ionosphere loves doing things like that, but a delay of seconds raises eyebrows. Does something repeat or reflect our signals back to us occasionally?

But setting that aside, astronomers looking for transients in photographic plates and then have it result in a detection is in itself astonishing. They simply should not be there, and in 1950 no one on earth was anywhere close to the capability of putting a satellite in orbit. And it’s not just one candidate, but three, that really do appear to line up in a non-random way and not as a result of a defect in the plate, though this still needs to be confirmed. Whatever these objects were is a complete unknown. So the question is open, were we being watched?

Is there a background population of high-albedo objects in geosynchronous orbits around Earth?

Exploring nine simultaneously occurring transients on April 12th 1950

00:00:00 Intro
00:03:33 Bio
00:04:00 Transient Artifacts?
00:06:55 What was found
00:08:55 geosynchronous orbit?
00:12:48 Citizen science projects
00:14:00 Possible shapes?
00:19:28 Looking for other objects
00:24:52 Nuclear tests?

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[jackstrawful]

Anytime this topic of lurkers comes up, I have to recommend the novel 'Existence' by David Brin. It starts off with the exact scenario talked about here, a small alien probe, half the size of a basketball, discovered in orbit by a space trash removal project. As soon as it's activated a bunch of other lurker probes start activating all over the solar system, from the asteroid belt to the orbit of Neptune. The novel is brimming with intriguing ideas, and, without giving too much away, it puts forward a unique Fermi paradox solution that I'd never heard anywhere else.

[chianasgeek]

This is one big reason I love your channel so much; a *highly* speculative subject, covered extensively as possible with the data we have, and with due diligence to the whole "well, what if it's a natural phenomenon we don't know about?" line of argument. This sort of discourse is how we find out about things like this! Way to go! 😼

[romz]

Very intersting concept, also happy that astronomers are investigating the possibility without thinking about 'credibility' as anything alien related is usually frowned upon, it shows true progress !

[monsG]

It’s great having the intro by JMG back in EH videos!

[friendlyone]

A TEDX talk asked questions about certain satellite orbits, and then compared the path to very ancient city sites.
We should never disregard our own ancient past as the solution to today's mysteries.

[CaliforniaBushman]

You could have Anton Petrov from 'What the Math on', John. And do a talk, collab. Maybe a livestream between YouTubers? Been subbed to Anton for 4 years. People love it when YouTubers collab - like when you have David Kipping on. And you both have this bond as Video makers. Producers. It builds the community. Builds the sub base. Nobody knows their Astronomy/Cosmology like you do who interviews Avi Loeb, or JPL people, etc on this platform. And the guests know it. Love this channel!

[LAMPROS]

I really apreciate the combination of the spooky subject with the equally spooky new music! Interesting as always, thank you John!

[stricknine]

Great interview. It's a bit spooky to think that there could be alien probes in orbit watching us. Interesting topic. Also I liked the intro on the video with John. Thanks for the episode!

[laurencemoore]

I remember her last interview, and that was fascinating as well, she`s one of the best guests you`ve had. This is very interesting. Its just a personal opinion based on what i`ve read, listened too (and seen with my own eyes) about UAP`s i`m sure we are being observed and have been for some while. Please someone give this lady the budget she needs.

[simonklein]

Wow, I just clicked play on Isaac Arthur newest video when this came along... And I had to choose. Long story short, you are the best!

[mrkylefinney]

Fantastic episode! Would be great to see you and Anton Petrov do an episode together. You both are my favorites

[kennethbent]

Your show is getting better and better and it were pretty good to start with bravo for finding a subject I never even considered.

[derp]

Love to see this topic being given actual consideration. Too many people scoff and call it nonsense without bothering to look into it.

No matter which way the evidence ultimately leads, we need to do our due diligence because we already know how poisonous hubris is to science.

[brotheraleksej]

Oh, i know her, she was investigating missing stars ✨ happy she is your guest, John, again, bravo! This young woman gives me sense of a progressive scientist, which we need more than ever!

[dv]

Alien: “So glad I found this backwoods world to park my spacecraft. The Federation will never make me pay for a parking pass!”

Sputnik whizzes by: **beep beep beep**

Alien: “DAMNIT”

[gabor_kov]

This might be cap but I respect her admiting so many times "I do not know" a sign of a good scientist. Respect

[savageandthebeasts]

Is it possible that these early satellite and signal detections were aliens, but then they realized we could now detect them, so they changed how they were watching us?

[stephennelson]

Apologies for the necro comment. I always stumble over this channel once every few months then end up binging all the videos that I missed out on.

Love this content truly is fascinating.

[alanjameson]

I note with interest that the reported observation dates start eight years after the German V-2 engineering teams, rockets, etc. were relocated to the USA and USSR. We can't rule out the possibility that they did experiments that are still classified, and got inert satellites into orbit before Sputnik 1. The V-2 carried a one-ton warhead; just as a matter of speculation, might not a one-ton gun or rocket launcher carried into space be able to accelerate a reflective object to geosynchronous speed? If the putative objects were to include ones detected before 1940, the case for nonterrestrial origin would be far better. 1915 would be a nice year; 1905 would be even better.